Guest Anonymous Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 [quote name='roo']Guest I repeat, show me what copyright i Roo have infringed on????? You keep saying people are posting incorrect info do you not? So correct it. And please please tell me how on earth you quoting a question i have asked of you and you not answering being insulting. Why when people look things up,( unless it is being copied and pasted) on the net or in books is that so wrong? And also, since we dont know what breeds half of the users here have, how can we ask them about their breeds? Most of the people who have put info on this topic are actually enjoying the research part, you say their info is incorrect, ye3t seem totally unable to correct it( oops how odd) Threats are made by people who are unethical, dont talk of morals and ethics to me, i suggest you look inside yourself first. I have never encouraged people to infringe any laws. And as to you politely pointing it out in your first post :oops: god would i like to see you being rude :wink: And lastly on the subject..... If this topic so annoys and irritates you its quite simple, stop reading it and start one of your own.[/quote] I can correct it if I desire to but then you will simply make fun of me for doing so. Theft of copyrighted material is unethical - you are promoting and encouraging it and apparently you find that ethical. If you asked people to give information on their breeds that they know to be accurate you might actually learn something instead of repeating data stolen from other sites. You might want to look up the principles of true research - it does not include restating stuff you have no clue is correct or incorrect. I'm sorry the moderator's education levels are so low as to not comprehend copyrights or principles of research. I find it even sadder you are completely incapable of taking any helpful hints, blatant corrections or outright calls for ethical actions to heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 [quote name='Anonymous'][quote name='roo']Guest I repeat, show me what copyright i Roo have infringed on????? You keep saying people are posting incorrect info do you not? So correct it. And please please tell me how on earth you quoting a question i have asked of you and you not answering being insulting. Why when people look things up,( unless it is being copied and pasted) on the net or in books is that so wrong? And also, since we dont know what breeds half of the users here have, how can we ask them about their breeds? Most of the people who have put info on this topic are actually enjoying the research part, you say their info is incorrect, ye3t seem totally unable to correct it( oops how odd) Threats are made by people who are unethical, dont talk of morals and ethics to me, i suggest you look inside yourself first. I have never encouraged people to infringe any laws. And as to you politely pointing it out in your first post :oops: god would i like to see you being rude :wink: And lastly on the subject..... If this topic so annoys and irritates you its quite simple, stop reading it and start one of your own.[/quote] I can correct it if I desire to but then you will simply make fun of me for doing so. Theft of copyrighted material is unethical - you are promoting and encouraging it and apparently you find that ethical. If you asked people to give information on their breeds that they know to be accurate you might actually learn something instead of repeating data stolen from other sites. You might want to look up the principles of true research - it does not include restating stuff you have no clue is correct or incorrect. I'm sorry the moderator's education levels are so low as to not comprehend copyrights or principles of research. I find it even sadder you are completely incapable of taking any helpful hints, blatant corrections or outright calls for ethical actions to heart.[/quote] [b]Ok, Gigishiba has written to the author and explained what she in innocence has done that has offended you so much. As to the moderators education levels, please grow up. why if you can correct the incorrect info with sensible polite responses will you not do so? i don't think anyone will make fun of you. Are you not the same guest who in the begining of this topic said i had copied what i had written, i replied back without rudeness exactly what and how i had written it you did not respond(how odd) and guest dear, i do have morals and ethics and an education i also have something that you seem not to possess, and that something is called TACT :lol: Roo. [/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avaloniaboerboele Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 One question - isnt guest a reincarnation of HITLER?? or NERO?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted July 21, 2002 Share Posted July 21, 2002 The IBIZAN HOUND "This is an elegant and racily built hunting dog, with an exceptional jumping ability. In spite of its friendly disposition, it is only obedient when it feels inclined. Its coat may white and red or tawny. Large breed requiring a maximum amount of exercise, at least an hour a day, half of which should be galloping free. Short coated requiring grooming only once a week. A rarer breed." Wendy Boorer, [i]Dogs[/i], 1979, [u]Hennerwood productions[/u], London "The Ibizan hound comes from the island of Ibiza in the Balaerics, and is also to be found on the other Balearic islands. It is a useful, medium-sized hound, very active and intelligent, and hunts by scent as much as by sight. In their native islands Ibizan hounds are used to hunt partridge, hare and rabbit as well as larger game. They retrieve and point and are sometimes hunted in packs as well as singly. Although usually thought of as smooth-coated, these hounds can be wire- or long-coated, the long coat being really a rough coat. The breed has a long, lean head with erect ears, and can be red and white, tawny or whole-coloured. It is a friendly, attractive dog and a good companion for anyone wanting a days rabbiting in the country. Similar to the Pharoah hound. John and Mary Holmes, [i]The colourful world of dogs[/i], 1976, [u]Hennerwood productions[/u], London Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 22, 2002 Share Posted July 22, 2002 Hi this is Ickle (new to this site) I loged in to learn about breeds I don,t know much about only to find a mini war of words going on. :roll: I always understood that as long as you had permissionto use the article & gave full credit to the author then everything would be above board Is this not correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 23, 2002 Share Posted July 23, 2002 Hi Sashagirl I am pleased to hear you say that and I will be around as often as I can Hope there are not to many wars Ickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 [quote name='newfiemom']Guest, I do agree about the copyrighting of info people get from different sites on this topic. However, who are you to comment on people's education levels? Are you assuming that we, including the moderators, are below you in education as well? Just how educated are you? If you say you are a PhD, then I have no argument. If not, please, no rude and demeaning comments like that. Even if you had the PhD, you still should not say something so rude.[/quote] If I have to explain to MODERATORS what copyrights are and what plaigerism is and how research is done (which does not include the outright copying of other people's work) then I suspect the people in question know less than I do - ie their education level is lower. I don't think you must have a degree to be educated - I do think you have to apply your mind to become educated. I think some of the best educated people in all history and in all the world are the people who embark on self education with all the fervor some use to observe ball games :wink: I do think this particular topic is a pure waste of bandwidth repeating stolen information from other sites with no verification if any of the data repeated is even true. If you all want to delude yourselves that its educational then so be it but quit stealing copyrighted work from other web pages and do read the copyright statements on those pages you look at and understand them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 My words exaclty newfiemom. Its Friday tommorrow, and the next breed will be THE CAIRN TERRIER Roo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 [quote name='Anonymous'][quote name='newfiemom']Guest, I do agree about the copyrighting of info people get from different sites on this topic. However, who are you to comment on people's education levels? Are you assuming that we, including the moderators, are below you in education as well? Just how educated are you? If you say you are a PhD, then I have no argument. If not, please, no rude and demeaning comments like that. Even if you had the PhD, you still should not say something so rude.[/quote] If I have to explain to MODERATORS what copyrights are and what plaigerism is and how research is done (which does not include the outright copying of other people's work) then I suspect the people in question know less than I do - ie their education level is lower. I don't think you must have a degree to be educated - I do think you have to apply your mind to become educated. I think some of the best educated people in all history and in all the world are the people who embark on self education with all the fervor some use to observe ball games :wink: I do think this particular topic is a pure waste of bandwidth repeating stolen information from other sites with no verification if any of the data repeated is even true. If you all want to delude yourselves that its educational then so be it but quit stealing copyrighted work from other web pages and do read the copyright statements on those pages you look at and understand them.[/quote] Nicki....Nicki....is this you in drag??? Guest, AKA: "Rude" Guest: if you are so worried about the infringment rights of others, please contact the Copywrite Police --- I'm sure they have nothing better to do than to sue a small forum. OR maybe you should research topics before the court systems dealing with copywrites. It takes YEARS to get a judgement. Why would someone sue over copywrite when NO profit has been made from it!?? Hum.... [i]"this particular topic is a pure waste of bandwidth repeating stolen information[/i]" GEEZ, then YOU NEED TO PRACTICE WHAT YOU ARE PREACHING! If you are ALSO worried about the bandwidth waste, then SHUT UP! How's that for a waste of space? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 Has guest finished? Can we really get on to cairn terrier Roo ? From my limited knowledge the cairn is a fiesty little dog full of character A double coated breed, sturdy in build and .has a mischievios expression with dark eyes,shaggy eyebrows & small upright ears.medium length of body,short nearlt upright hairy tail. A family dog who adjusts well to any life style.loves people and joins in all the fun & games I am sure more knwledgeable people will give us the standard etc. Ickle :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 Thank you Ickle for returning the topic to what it was meant to be, I will look a bit up soon and see what info i can find, come on everyone lets find out about the cairn. Roo :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 27, 2002 Share Posted July 27, 2002 Cairn Terrier Country: Great Britain Weight: 13-14 pounds Coat: Rough Color: Any color except white Registry: FCI, AKC, UKC, TKC, CKC Group: Terrier The breeds history is parallel to that of the Skye, the West Highland White, and the Scotish Terriers and goes back about 500 years. From a large variety of types in various locales, four distinct slowly emerged: the Cairn, Skye, Westie, and Scottie. When the Cairns were first exhibited in 1909 they were called Short-haired Skyes. This produced a howl from the Skye fanciers, resulting in the name Cairn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 My pleasure Roo enough is enough :roll: Ickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Uk standard Colour, cream, wheaten, red ,grey or nearly black. brindling in all of these colours acceptable, dark points, such as ears and muzzle very typical. not solid black, or white, or black and tan. Height approx 11-12 inches weight 14 - 16 pounds Interesting bit the forefeet are larger than the hind. temperament. Frealess and gay disposition, assertive but not aggressive. characteristics. active game and hardy. apparently an able swimmer, and good hunter. Puppy birth weight 5 to 6 ounces litter size (sorry guest) 5 ish congenital faults.. cryptorchidism. But what was this breed bred for? Roo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 I assume from the way he is referred to as a hunter he was probably trained as rat & maybe a rabbit catcher Ickle :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Yes Ickle i thought that too, but can not find it anywhere yet!!!!!!! Roo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GizmoRedNosePit Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Hey the Carin Terrier!! I was watching Animal Planet the other day and there was a show on them!! How cool! With some owners they take there pups out to this place ( I dont remeber where) But it is like a home made tunnel and with two mice at the end (safe of course!) and they have to get in there and then find the mice and then bark and then come back out....in a certain time of course but this is what they know naturally....I was like hmm I wonder if Gizmo could do that! LOL Really cue dogs, but they have that really rough hair and they NEVER shed..... :-? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Hi Roo In a article I read one 9lb cairn while out cubbing ( I presume fox cubs) bolted a fox & a huge badger and received a working certificate for this from the Master of the North Warwickshire hounds so sounds like a useful little dog. Ickle :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted July 31, 2002 Share Posted July 31, 2002 Its Friday soon and the next breed will be DASCHUNDS lets see if we can find out more about them than we did the cairn. Roo :lol: :lol: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roo Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Dachshund A hound. 6 different types smooth hair wire hair long hair mini smooth hair mini wire hair mini long hair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 trained originally to go down into badgers setts and chase them out. Hence the need for a long low sauage shaped body with conical head design to enable them to worm their way into the smallest of nooks & crannies. Do not know a lot about these little dogs but I must admit to having a preference for the wire-haired type when I have judged them in variety classes Ickle :D :D :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Ahh dachshunds. My grandpa has had dachshunds since I was a kid and though I am nowhere near an expert on them I would like to share some experiences: They may be small; my uncle calls them bonsai Dobermans! Dachels think they're a lot bigger than they are. They have a deep bark for something so small and are very good watch dogs. One dog, Peebo, managed to scare off a couple of robbers by jumping over the high barricade that kept him in the laundry at night. This damaged his back so severely he had to be euthanised.:cry: They're fairly active and with any dog, it's important they get out and socialise. They are very affectionate and fond of luxury. They are generally obedient but opinion seems to differ, I do know they are stubborn! They tolerate small children but will snap if provoked (like most dogs). Overfeeding can lead to back problems in later life. Their life expectancy is around 10-12 years (from my own experience anyway). Some of the problems my grandpa's dogs had were heart murmur, leaking valves, and diabetes. Currently Grandad has a 9-month old standard dachshund, Tomson, who is adorable if not a bit hyper. He loves BK and tries to mate him (or his back leg, that's all he can get around!) at every opportunity. BK got sick of this and all he had to do was put Tomson's head gently in his mouth and BREATHE on him, and Tomson was VERY subdued after that. :lol: Dachshund Club of Victoria is a good website for info: [url]http://www.ozramp.net.au/~teckel/dcv/dcv.htm[/url] And here is a picture of Tomson (ok, here is a link to see the picture) [url]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/pubimage.asp?id_=519142&uid=36240[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ickle Posted August 7, 2002 Share Posted August 7, 2002 Hi Bk-blue thanks for the insight on your grandfather's dachshunds. and for sharing your sad & amusing tales with us. Sorry about Peebo. Ickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepseasnake Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 I dont know much about them either but a neighbor of mine had one named scarlet and if I remember right she barked 23 hours a day, at nothing most of the time. she also would come up to my husky "Rocky" (135#) and pick fights. :roll: every time rocky was so confused by the noisy little thing he'd suffer a mental breakdown and come into the house with little scarlet hot on his tail. poor rock he just didn't know what to do :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted August 8, 2002 Share Posted August 8, 2002 Yes they can be VERY noisy and will bark at anyone in the street (from the comfort of their own home, of course). They also don't like cats in my experience. There was a cat who lived next door to Grandad and for 2 years it pranced along the top of the fence and teased the hell out of the dachshunds. One day the cat must have slipped while showing off and that was it. :cry: The dogs broke its back and mauled the poor thing, it had to be put down- but the cat's owner was surprisingly philosopical about it and had been aware for some time that his cat deliberately goaded the dogs. It was nobody's fault (though maybe something could have been done to either stop the dogs barking at it or stop the cat from teasing them), just one of those awful, natural-instinct things. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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