Ickle

I have never had a jap spitz with brown tinges on them but I have seen other people with ones with pale biscuit colouring (like you get on samoyeds). Never heard of food affecting the colour I have bred them on and off since 1982 and lost my last one in 2007 Ickle UK

I would be more concerned of my bitch was grumbling and bullying the puppy Give her time she will decide when she is ready to welcome your new baby. Just do not let her feel left out. best wishes Ickle

Maybe they are trying to get closer to the oriiginal shelties which came from the UK and are up to 14 inches for bitches and up to up to 14 & 1/2 inches for dogs Oh and yes a collie was crossed with the original sheltie to help set the type many many years ago. Ickle (sheltie breeder in UK )

Walkin' in A Doggie Wonderland Dog tags ring, are you listenin'? In the lane, snow is glistenin'. It's yellow, NOT white - I've been there tonight, Marking up my winter wonderland. Smell that tree? That's my fragrance. It's a sign for wand'ring vagrants; "Avoid where I pee, it's MY pro-per-ty! Marked up as my winter wonderland." In the meadow dad will build a snowman, following the classical design. Then I'll lift my leg and let it go Man, So all the world will know it's mine-mine-mine! Straight from me to the fencepost, flows my natural incense boast; "Stay off of my TURF, this small piece of earth, I mark it as my winter wonderland. from frogdoggers Jckle

I found it horrific Abker Makes my flesh creep and as Michele & Sabine said people are truly evil Ickle :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Dear friends on the list. I had this message on my private email from an Italian sheltie friend, which I will translate for you into English. Please, send it to everybody you know, send it through other international or national smartgroup lists, if necessary translate it into your own language. Thanks everybody who will give a little help to make people aware of this immense cruelty, that is happening just in front of everybody's eyes. Alfredo "if you follow the below link, you will get to the PETA (people for Ethical Treatment of Animals) web site, an international association that takes care of the rights of animals. Although it is of an enormous cruelty, please have a look at the video "China shocking dog and cat fur trade", in which is documented the awful thing done on dogs and cats in China in order to get the furs which will eventually go to the Western markets. Who is promoting this campaign is the chain J.Crew, but ALL goods coming from China, with some fur in it is causing these bad treatments on animals. PLEASE send this message to everybody you know, as much as possible, because we cannot ignore the fact that all this happens just in front of us. Unfortunately I have watched this video too, and I just can't stop crying." Se seguite il link sottostante arriverete al sito della Peta (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals), associazione internazionale per la tutela dei diritti degli animali. Anche se è di una crudeltà incommensurabile, vi invito a guardare il filmato "China's shocking dog and cat fur trade", nel quale è documentato il calvario subito da cani e gatti in cina al fine di ottenere le pellicce destinate al commercio occidentale. Portabandiera di questa barbarie è la catena J.Crew, ma tutta la merce di provenienza cinese con applicazioni di pelliccia alimenta i maltrattamenti degli animali. Vi prego di fare girare il più possibile questo messaggio perch

“IF IT SHOULD BE” If it should be that I grow frail and weak and pain prevents my peaceful sleep, then you must do what must be done, when this last battle cannot be won. You will be sad, I understand; Selfishness might stay your hand, but on this day, more than the rest, your love and friendship take the test. We have had so many happy years, that what’s to come can hold no fears, You would not want me to suffer, so, when the time comes, please let me go. Take me where my needs they will tend, only – stay with me until the end. Hold me firm and speak to me, until my eyes no longer see. I know, in time, you too will see, it is a kindness that you do for me. Although my tail its last has waved, from pain and suffering I have been saved. Do not grieve it should be you, who must decide this thing to do. We have been so close, we two, these years…….don’t let your heart hold any tears. ~Author Unknown ~ Received from frogdoggers

From another group: WHEN I AM OLD When I am old... I will wear soft gray sweatshirts... and a bandana over my silver hair... and I will spend my social security checks on wine and my dogs. I will sit in my house on my well-worn chair and listen to my dogs breathing. I will sneak out in the middle of a warm summer night and take my dogs for a run, if my old bones will allow... When people come to call, I will smile and nod as I show them my dogs... and talk of them and about them... the ones so beloved of the past and the ones so beloved of today... I will still work hard cleaning after them, mopping and feeding them, and whispering their names in a soft loving way. I will be an embarrassment to all... who have not yet found the peace in being free to have dogs as your best friends... These friends who always wait, at any hour, for your footfall... and eagerly jump to their feet out of a sound sleep, to greet you as if you are a God, with warm eyes full of adoring love and hope that you will always stay... I'll hug their big strong necks... I'll kiss their dear sweet heads... and whisper in their very special company.... I look in the mirror... and see I am getting old.... this is the kind of person I am... and have always been. Loving dogs is easy, they are part of me. -- author unknown Yckle[size=6][/size]

[size=6][b]You Know You Love Dogs When... You have a kiddie wading pool in the yard, but no small children. You have baby gates permanently installed at strategic places around the house, but no babies. The trash basket is more or less permanently installed in the kitchen sink, to keep the dog out of it while you're at work. You can't see out the passenger side of the windshield because there are nose-prints all over the inside. Poop has become a source of conversation for you and your significant other. You refer to yourselves as Mommy and Daddy. Your dog sleeps with you. You have 32 different names for your dog. Most make no sense, but she understands. Your dog eats cat poop, but you still let her kiss you (but not immediately afterward, of course). You like people who like your dog. You despise people who don't. You carry dog biscuits in your purse or pocket at all times. You talk about your dog the way other people talk about their kid. You sign and send birthday/anniversary/Christmas cards from your dog. You put an extra blanket on the bed so your dog can be comfortable. You'd rather stay home on Saturday night and cuddle your dog than go to the movies with your sweetie. You go to the pet supply store every Saturday because it's one of the very few places that lets you bring your dog inside, and your dog loves to go with you. You open your purse, and that big bunch of baggies you use for pick-ups pops out. You get an extra-long hose on your shower-massage just so you can use it to wash your dog in the tub, without making the dog sit hip-deep in water. You don't think it's the least bit strange to stand in the back yard yelling, "Emily, pee!" over and over again, while Emily tends to play and forget what she's out there for (but what your neighbors think of your behavior is yet another story). You and the dog come down with something like flu on the same day. Your dog sees the vet while you settle for an over-the-counter remedy from the drugstore. Your dog is getting old and arthritic, so you go buy lumber and build her a small staircase so she can climb onto the bed by herself. Your license plate or license plate frame mentions your dog. [/b][/size] Received from frogdoggers Ickle

well done you RT Ickle

Me too got 5

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Have not been online much this last 10 days have a litter of six frenchie puppies to look after. Did have 7 but one dear little chap was to small to survive (he was only a third of the size of the other pups.) I hope everyone is safe and well despite the hurricanes . Take care and God bless Ickle

I am a co-ordinator for sheltie rescue in the UK and we have foster parents who I agree with you are the most marvellous of folks We should cherish them always Bless them all wherever they live in the world. Loved that last tale .Thanks for sharing. Ickle

[size=6][b]I hope you enjoy the little story below, and wipe tears as I always do. THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FOSTER DOG INTO MY LIFE Had I not made the decision to participate in rescue, I would never have had the chance to meet him. If I had sat here comfortably in my home and said "I already have four dogs and I know that I couldn't take in another - even on a temporary basis," I would never have met this dog. Yes, it takes time to rescue and foster... but who gave me time in the first place? And why or what was the reason I was given Time? To fill my own needs? Or was there another reason ever so small and seemingly insignificant, like rescuing this one dog that could make a difference in another's life? Perhaps to add joy, hope, help and companionship to another who is in need? With great sadness, I sat down on a footstool in my kitchen this morning and watched as this foster dog bounced back into the house and skidded across the floor to sit ever so perfectly in front of me. He was the picture of health, finally. He was all smiles for me...and I smiled back at his happy face. Deep in his eyes, the storm clouds of illness and generalized poor health had blown away, and the clear light of his perfection radiated out from his beautiful soul. He holds no ill will toward man. He forgives us all. I thought to myself as I impressed this one last long look of him into my heart, what a very fine creature you have created. Tears slowly pooled and spilled over my cheekbones as the deeper realization of how wonderful this dog is sank into my internal file cabinet of Needful Things to Remember. Lord, he's a dog - but he's a better human being than I am. He has forgiven so quickly. Would I do the same? He passionately enjoys the simple things in life, and I have often overlooked them. He accepts change and gets on with his life! I fuss and worry about change. He lives today and loves today. And I often dwell in the past or worry about the future. He loves no matter what. I am not that free. This very lovely dog has gone to his new home today and already I miss him. Thank you for bringing this dog into my life. And thank you for the beautiful and tender lesson on how to be a better human. Author Unknown Received from Frogdoggers[/b][/size] Ickle

well done HF we need lots more people like you and your friend in the world .Your vet sounds just great too Ickle

[size=6][b]This is a MUST READ for everyone. A message from your future dog Treat me kindly, my beloved master, for no heart in all the world is more grateful for kindness than the loving heart of mine. Do not break my spirit with a stick, for your patience and understanding will more quickly teach me the things you would have me do. Speak to me often, for your voice is the world's sweetest music, as you must know by the fierce wagging of my tail when your footstep falls upon my waiting ear. When it is cold and wet, take me inside, for I am now a domesticated animal, no longer used to bitter elements. And I ask no greater glory than the privilege of sitting at your feet. Though had you no home, I would rather follow you through ice and snow than rest upon the softest pillow in the warmest home in all the land, for you are my god and I am your devoted worshipper. Keep my pan filled with fresh water, for although I should not reproach you were it dry, I cannot tell you when I suffer thirst. Feed me clean food, that I may stay well, to romp and play and do your bidding, to walk by your side, and stand ready and able to protect you with my life should your life be in danger. And, BELOVED MASTER, should the GREAT MASTER see fit to deprive me of my sight, hearing and health, do not turn me away from you. Do not make heroic efforts to keep me going, I am not having any fun and I can no longer protect you. Hold me gently in your arms as skilled hands grant me the merciful boon of Eternal Rest. I shall leave this earth knowing with the last breath I draw, that my fate was always safest in your loving hands. *~Author unknown received from frogdoggers Ickle[/b][/size]

I have many shelties over the years who were smilers.They would do it on command and the matriach would greet visitora with a smile and I did have to show them she was indeed smiling at them Ickle

Sorry I know this is not about dogs but have you all given up clicking on the awareness site It is very lonely there now Ickle :cry:

[b]Got this off the show boxer list. How scary would this have been? I was told yesterday that a boxer and a bulldog died from the gas bombs. What is this world coming to? Its absolute insanity. Yesterday at the World Show in Argentina rabid Dogo fans did not like the BOB selection made by the Judge. They went after him with knives (Saturday the crowd favorite who lost went up to the Judge in the ring and punched him in the nose). Two men, standing at ringside, threw two canisters of tear gas into the Dogo ring causing panic and many injuries. (The site was set up like The Garden). Many, especially Americans, thought it was a terrorist attack. You can just picture owners and handlers trying to get to their dogs to get them out of the building. To add insult to injury the police shut the main doors, locking in many people who, in panic and pain, went through the plate glass windows to get air. Many people were taken to the hospital, many dogs went to the vets, some dogs had bad eye injuries as well as lung involvement and afew dogs died at the scene. The FCI banned the Argentinean Dogo from shows for two years and took away all awards given during this weekend. Too little too late, in my opinion. They were aware of the danger before the show but did nothing about it. Since the dog is the country's favorite they allowed them to enter for $20.00 per entry instead of $120.00 like the rest of the dogs so over 100 were there. The fanciers are like rabid soccer fans. The FCI then went on to finish the show after airing out the building late that afternoon (under the threats of more violence) with over half the entry missing, not the proper thing to do, IMO. We were fortunate, our handler had just returned to the grooming area so was able, with a little help, to get the dogs out without harm to their eyes, nose or lungs, she was not as lucky. In the meantime the judge is back home safely. I think he will not forget this adventure. At home he told another judge how all this started. At the moment he announced the BOB, the loosing person gave the order to his dog to attack the judge. Luckily he is quite a sportive man and could jump on the judge's table to protect himself and then it went on as described ......... The Judge is a Dogo breeder himself and the president of the Austrian Dogo club. Ciao Amigos....[/b] Received from frogdoggers Ickle

Maybe just maybe she got mated by two different dogs on the season. Ickle whatever they are both are very lovely looking girls Good luck with Kat Ickle

Thats ok Just thought I had missed something :D :D

Yes Courtnek please do Ickle

[size=6][b]DO NOT TALK TO MY PARROT!!! Wanda's dishwasher quit working so she called a repairman. Since she had to go to work the next day, she told the repairman, "I'll leave the key under the mat. Fix the dishwasher, leave the bill on the counter, and I'll mail you a check." "Oh, by the way don't worry about my bulldog. He won't bother you. But, whatever you do, do NOT, under ANY circumstances, talk to my parrot!" "I REPEAT, DO NOT TALK TO MY PARROT!!!" When the repairman arrived at Wanda's apartment the following day, he discovered the biggest, meanest looking bulldog he has ever seen. But, just as she had said, the dog just lay there on the carpet watching the repairman go about his work. The parrot, however, drove him nuts the whole time with his incessant yelling, cursing and name calling. Finally the repairman couldn't contain himself any longer and yelled, "Shut up, you stupid, ugly bird!" To which the parrot replied, "Get him, Spike[/b][/size] From ik sheltie list Ickle

Have I gone nuts or something thought this was everything about dogs site not a ladies problems page. Or have I missed something????? Ickle