OMG!! DRRRR!!

[courtnek]

I am as PO'd as PO'd can get right now....

Last week People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) got a chilly reception from Canadian officials who shut down its outrageous "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign in Toronto. Denied a permit for Toronto's largest public square, PETA activists relocated to a city park where police quickly shut them down. PETA's graphic roving exhibit features life-sized photos comparing Nazi Holocaust victims to cows and chickens.
Commenting on the display, Canadian Jewish Congress Executive Director Bernie Farber said simply:

"It's the most offensive piece of crap I've ever seen in my life."

you can say that again......good for the canadian police, to not allow that crap.


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[DogPaddle]

I can't believe they could be so insesitive to holocost survivors.

[courtnek]

there arent that many left anymore..that's why they get away with this crap...I am appalled by this. Can you imagine what the Jewish community must be thinking? this is just INTOLERABLE in my opinion, and they should have been arrested....

:evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[Lucky Chaos]

Thats horrible! You know, I almost wish they did get permission. Just so I could go over there and throw eggs and milk at them. Now thats what I call fun! :evil:

[lsailor]

I so agree with you. PETA is absolutely the most ridiculous piece of poo ever. Just as an FYI - they euthanized 62% of the animals they "rescued" (and I use the word sarcastically) in 2000, as opposed to the 30-45% in county shelters in the same year according to the US Humane Society.

Yet, they LOVE animals, right? Except for pit bulls, and the ones they could have found homes for if they had even attempted.

Yeah, I'm a little opinionated about this subject.

:evil: :evil: :evil:

[courtnek]

[quote name='Lucky Chaos']Thats horrible! You know, I almost wish they did get permission. Just so I could go over there and throw eggs and milk at them. Now thats what I call fun! :evil:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and rubber chickens....

8)

[courtnek]

[quote name='Lucky Chaos']Thats horrible! You know, I almost wish they did get permission. Just so I could go over there and throw eggs and milk at them. Now thats what I call fun! :evil:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and rubber chickens....

8)

[BuddysMom]

PETA is SO disgusting ... and then those who REALLY care about animals get associated with these scum ... it is infuriating!!!

[courtnek]

I sent them a letter once, long ago. I didnt think of it til tonight, watcing "Terminator" "what would you do, if the world as you know it came to an end? If there was no electricity, no phone, no running water....
If the only food was what you could hunt? could catch? Would you let your children die, rather than eat meat? Would you consider that deer, or cow, more important than your sons life? I truly abhor the way slaughter animals are kept, and have fought it non-stop. But I ask you, what would you do? would you die? let your children/parents/friends/familt die? there are two sides to every coin. You appear to refuse to see both sides. People have to eat. Some of that food is meat. Do you think in a world where there was no farm production of vegetables that you would survive?
not likely...."

[Seijun]

In a recent article (which I've gone an lost) One PETA freak commented saying he thought the 9/11 attacks were GOOD because now all those people won't be around to eat cows and chickens. (FYI, he also thought the holocaust was good for that very same reason).

~Seij

[lsailor]

[quote name='Seijun']In a recent article (which I've gone an lost) One PETA freak commented saying he thought the 9/11 attacks were GOOD because now all those people won't be around to eat cows and chickens. (FYI, he also thought the holocaust was good for that very same reason).

~Seij[/quote]

Wow, that's really special. I hope there are no Jewish members of PETA!

:stupid:

I really like the suggestion of throwing milk and eggs at them. That would be sweet. Ooh! And then we can unleash our oppressed, enslaved pets on them to clean them up. :wink:

Personally I'd love to see a whole pack of pit bulls licking milk off of a crowd of PETA members. Now that's a good time.
:laola:

[imported_Kat]

That incident was well out of line but then again its PETA... you can expect anything from them :roll:

[Lucky Chaos]

[quote name='courtnek'][quote name='Lucky Chaos']Thats horrible! You know, I almost wish they did get permission. Just so I could go over there and throw eggs and milk at them. Now thats what I call fun! :evil:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

and rubber chickens....

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Why stop at rubber chickens? I'll bring a big bucket of KFC to throw at them as well. :lol:

[imported_Cassie]

PETA reminds me of a bunch of stoned yuppies with nothing but anger to back up their claims.

We now live in the "modern world" we are creatures of comfort and for our comfort and way of life and growing populations animals have suffered. There is not doubt that some animals have suffered and some have thrived. I don't agree with any of PETA's views...but, I would like to see a well organized committe get together and make a significant difference with our animals today. There are some things I think are cruel but necessary, for instance killing seals in northern Canada (Labrador, NFLD) too many seals too few fish, over population of humans = over fishing and add pollution to further complicate matters. There needs to be a healthy balance.
If there were a few things I would choose to protest and change it would be

-Please, stop polluting our oceans and forests and killing every thing slowly. I cringe when I watch a local tree forestry growing all of their trees and cutting down hectors of forest...then to protect their trees they fly over with pesticides (very dangerous pesticides). I have seen myself that after they use these pesticides all the fish in lakes for miles die and you cannot fish for years after they have "treated" their harvest of trees. Its disgusting, and the pesticides stay in the environment and cause further damage to all animals for years to come. I can remember when I was a child you could drink from any lake or stream any where...now, you would end up very ill and sick as it seems all of our water is polluted to a certain extent.
-Stop feeding our food their own species and animals which only eat vegetation should only be fed vegetation.
-Stop farming salmon and killing the wild ones with the diseases created in the farmed salmon areas which spill over to the wild ones. Stop using quick feeds and other abnormal products on our animals like chickens and cows. I hate it when you see local farmers using quick grow feeds...its unhealthy and abnormal.
-Raise our chickens & cows and other food related animals in a healthy manner and let them graze and be free range. In the end you are providing safe meat for humans and the animals get more nutrients and make for healthier eating.

If you had a commitee which was focused on the "right" things perhaps we could aim to have a better quality of life for all.
In my opinion we need animals to eat, that is what God put them on earth for. But, greed of man has slowly destroyed many natural orders of animals...greed can never be cured, but, at least we can focus on making things better for future generations and clean up the unhealthy things we are currently doing. We are a smart species, but, greed always out weighs intellegence. Its sad when you see people trying to find cheaper was to mass produce our food etc. and in the end they end up causing horrible new diseases. :(

[pitbullEmily]

PETA are despicable scum and the Holocaust comparisons are beyond tasteless.

But I believe in free speech. PETA has the right to express their views (In fact, in this case, the expression of their speech is more likely to drive away potential supporters than attract them) and should have been allowed to hold their demonstration.

In the US, the ACLU defended the right of Nazi's to march in Skokie IL, a location the Nazi's chose precisely because of a large population of Holocaust survivors.

[Seijun]

PETA would actually be a great group if they focussed their efforts on issues that mattered (you know, like REAL animal abuse, such as destroying ranforests and causing the extinction of hundreds of undiscovered species).

~Seij

[BuddysMom]

[quote]In my opinion we need animals to eat, that is what God put them on earth for.[/quote]

GREAT post Cassie, you are eloquent on environmental issues!

In my humble opinion, I do not believe God "gave" us animals to eat... It just turns out that we are omnivorous like many other mammals. A species that eats other species. Not to say I don't believe in God (haven't worked that one out yet) ... but definitely don't buy the "man's dominion" part.

Not meaning to get off topic so I'll say once again ... PETA go crawl in a hole and stop ruining sane animal advocates' chances of being heard. If I speak out against factory farming etc. it's automatically assumed that I'm a PETA fanatic when I wouldn't touch this group with a 10 foot pole.

[3ofakind]

Cassie,

The committee idea is nice. Just thought I would let you know that there are companies doing things to change many of the things you mentioned.

Take the "quick grow feeds" you mentioned. While most do still contain synthetic hormones, there are companies making and many farmers changing to natural additives that produce the same effect. It is metabolized b/c it is natural and therefore has little residual effects. Examples of these are Triptophan (the hormone in turkeys that makes you sleepy after that big Thanksgiving dinner) and Lysine. The same company also uses the same bio-chemical processes to make human food additives like riboflavin and xanthum gum.

So there is some progress and that's a good thing. Even with a committee it would take a very long time to make huge changes.

As for PETA, all I have to say is BOOOOOOOOOOOO!

[Guest Anonymous]

:o how sutpid, so glad that the toronto police were so quick to act and shut them down..

grr i'm with you DL PETA can kiss my butt too ( id otn have the cool icon you have though lol )

[courtnek]

[quote name='"pitbullEmily"']PETA are despicable scum and the Holocaust comparisons are beyond tasteless.

But I believe in free speech. PETA has the right to express their views (In fact, in this case, the expression of their speech is more likely to drive away potential supporters than attract them) and should have been allowed to hold their demonstration.

In the US, the ACLU defended the right of Nazi's to march in Skokie IL, a location the Nazi's chose precisely because of a large population of Holocaust survivors.[quote]

you are of course correct. I was at the Skokie demonstration, on the side of the people who thought the holocaust should always be remembered. The Nazi's want all the youth of today to believe it never happened, that it
was a govt ploy. there have been more than one in Skokie, it's a largely Jewish community. But IMO this was uncalled for. I agree that they have free speech, but they are pushing pain buttons and trying to suck in children. History has proof of the holocaust on it's side. this was just fear tactics and visual horror. I got this as an email today. It speaks volumes.

"I looked around at all the animals suffering in the world.

I saw the abuse, the neglect, the pain.

I looked up to heaven and said, Why?

Why don't you do something to help the animals?

The reply came back. I did do something.

I created YOU!"

I agree with them that the abuse of animals must stop. and that slaughter animals should be treated with respect and right-to-life. Give them the best life they can have in the time they have. But people eat meat, and their atrocious tactics to stop it should not be allowed. I know it falls under free speech, but I personally would deck anyone handing that kind of
literature to a small child. That's my biggest gripe. they target children outside of their schools. and most parents dont even know its happening.
small children, not teenagers who are mature enough to make a choice.

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[DogPaddle]

[quote]PETA are despicable scum and the Holocaust comparisons are beyond tasteless.

But I believe in free speech. PETA has the right to express their views (In fact, in this case, the expression of their speech is more likely to drive away potential supporters than attract them) and should have been allowed to hold their demonstration.

In the US, the ACLU defended the right of Nazi's to march in Skokie IL, a location the Nazi's chose precisely because of a large population of Holocaust survivors.[/quote]

Just as side note:
In Canada or enforcers and legislators have greater leeway in what they can do in regards to these issues. The right to demonstrate on city or public property is not absolute. Other issues such as safety, public decency, harrasment etc. take precedence. This is because Canada is a more socialist democracy and as such the rights of an individual only extend to the point that they may be considered detrimental to another at wich point they are restricted. This means that the rights of society come before the rights of the individual. As such, in Canada, Peta did not have the right to express their views, [b]in the paticular format they had chosen.[/b]
[size=2]I think I've got all that correct.[/size]

[BuddysMom]

DP, Yes I get it and that is interesting to say the least! No opinion one way or the other as of now, but it takes me back to Ethics 101... thanks I think :fadein: