Guest Anonymous Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 I have a 7 month old silky yorkie,and I would like to breed him? How do I go about it? Who do I contact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted February 4, 2002 Share Posted February 4, 2002 First of all your dog has to be at least 2 years old. Secondly, why are you wanting to breed? Are you showing your dog? Do you feel that you are improving the quality of the breed, etc? If you wonder why I am listing these questions - go to [url]http://www.akc.org[/url] and look under breed rescues for your breed, or go to [url]http://www.petfinder.com[/url] and do a search for your breed and you will be amazed at all the unwanted purebreds out there. And yes, it does happen to small dogs as well. If you still decide that you would like to breed, do research on your dogs pedigree and any potential bitches - this will help find genetic problems that may occur. This has come down to an art of science for most, very complicated and for most - difficult to understand. Cornel University is offering an online class that starts next month, I believe, for dog breeders to learn more about genetics - it might be worth the money. Also, be sure that you can afford this. While you are the stud's owner, you are still responsible for some of the cost involved. What happens if the bitch can no longer nurse (as in the case of my rescues)? Are you going to help purchase the formula or help physically nurse the puppies? What if the mom needs a C-section or another emergency happens? Lastly, do you intend to be there for the life of the puppies in the event that their owners no longer want them? Reputable breeders are, they want to keep track of their pups and make sure that they are taken care of. What happens in 5 years if you are contacted by a family that has one of your pups and no longer wants it, or there is a medical issue that they can't pay for? And are you going to require that there be a spay/neuter contract signed? Tons of things to consider - the least of which you should be focused on is how cute they are. As far as finding a bitch for your dog - unless you are showing it may be a little bit difficult to find an owner that just wants to breed. If you purchased your dog from a pet store - please don't breed at all, chances are your pet came from a Puppy Mill and could have horrible gentic issues lurking. Also, think about animal abuse and the horrible things people do to their pets - I wouldn't want to subject any animal to that risk so screening potential homes is imperative, as is checking up on them from time to time in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Does anyone on this site ever answer a question without going into a lecture on all the homeless animals, and how cruel it is to breed. Yes some people do not need to have dogs but the vast majority of owners love and take care of their pets. The horror stories of a few should not be a battle cry for all the bleeding hearts. :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Bravo, NewfieMom! It's just sad that people don't get it and don't want to get it. All they see are $$$$ signs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepseasnake Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 besides, for all the breeders out there you can find a perfactly good dog at your local rescue or shelter that most likely WAS from a good breeder the original owner just couldn't handle it Where we are right now I think the last thing we need is a bunch of money hungry pup farms, no matter how good their intentions are too many dogs need homes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 Oh Please don't breed so early!!!! Let the dog at least grow up and make sure that it is a dog worth breeding. I am not trying to be mean or anything, it's just that there are so many unwanted puppies out there. You really need to do your homework and know your breed standard before you breed. This dog is way too young!! Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 I am brand new to this forum, and I have been amazed at the breeding go on without a clue......I want to say first of all, that if you are breeding dogs to make money, please stop now!!! There is no money to be made if you breed correctly!! I am the proud of owner of 6 Bullmastiffs. They are first and foremost my family members. We are active in the conformation ring and huge advocates of health screenings. All of our dogs are OFA certified (hip certified) and shown actively before any thoughts of breeding are formed. Please look around at all the poor homeless animals out there. I have seen comments about lectures and bleeding hearts.....My god!! Do you see the stories on the news about the mistreatment of dogs!! If you are breeding your dog to make money, you are wrong.....There is no money to be made if you have screened your animals and eliminated those that are not breeding candidates!! I don't care if they've attained a CH if there are health issues, the dog needs to be spayed or neutered. I commend those of you who understand the situation our dogs are in. Those that screen and are careful and fully informed about the backgrounds of your dogs before you breed!! I realize I can talk until I'm blue in the face, but it's worth I try. If I can reach just one person it's truly worth it. Lisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 7, 2002 Share Posted September 7, 2002 First, you decide what breed of dog you have, is he a "Silky" or a "Yorkie"? Second, you decide if you want a "pet" or a "leg cocking stud" as a companion living with you. Third, you put him in the ring, earn his championship. Fourth, advertize him a show magazine and wait for requests. Good Luck with you new stud dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadyLady Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Granites where do people get the idea you can make money from breeding pups I must be doing something wrong because Im pleased if I can get my moneyback from any litter I breed by the time you pay for vaccinations worming good quality feed for the bitch not to mention if something goes wrong (vets bills) etc etc I only breed now every couple of years because of time restraints and puppies do take a lot of work cleaning kennels feeding handling going to vets .So please think it through and listen to people like Granites who know what they are talking about Also another point is that these puppies will not be carbon copies of your dog so just because you love your dog and maybe you think it would be nice to reproduce one like him it wont necessarily happen all dogs have their own personalities .Hope this doesnt sound too harsh but really look at the big picture :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 I agree!! It costs so much in time and money to produce a litter! I think its very important to consider very careful your reasons for breeding before you do it!!! I can say by experience, it IS NOT a money maker, but a labor of love when done for the right reasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted September 15, 2002 Share Posted September 15, 2002 Yes, save a life from the shelter!!!!! Neuter and spay and socialise and train, and you will have a life companion who will give you unconditional love. Though I have to say that if it wasn't for the ignorant persons who didn't desex their dog and bitch, then I wouldn't have my boy BK... but breeding for the wrong reasons (money, life experience, puppies are soooo cute etc) is just, well, wrong. And it is the pups who pay the price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poofy Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 A dog does not HAVE to be two years old to breed. There is no sudden magical transformation at this age that will reveal what your dog will produce genetically, physically or mentally, and it is not a magical age which any and all faults will suddenly be revealed. In dogs, some people choose to breed them younger, that is a personal descision. B*tches should not be bred as early because raising a litter pulls reserves they need for growth. HOWEVER, the longer you wait to breed a dog, the better. The more time you give a dog to develope an anomilie, so you don't have to look back, years later and go "darn" the better. Also, breeding *often* changes the behavior in a dog. Once this behavior is established, it is usually irreversible. Male dogs will begin urinating and deficating in your house to mark territory. This behavior can also be seen in bitches who have been left intact. Breeding makes a male more territorial, and his hormones levels will rage everytime something goes into heat, even if it is a mile away. If this dog is a PET and not a show dog, or an important stud dog in a breeding program, neuter him and enjoy him. Stud dogs RARELY make good pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolk9s Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Poofy said: [quote]A dog does not HAVE to be two years old to breed.[/quote] Poofy please do your homework before throwing out such statements. In dogs that are screened for hip dysplasia, they WILL NOT be OFA'd until they are at least 2 years old. Perhaps is some breeds starting them earlier is not as much a factor as in other but many dogs do not fully mature physically and mentally until they are about 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 [quote name='Poofy']A dog does not HAVE to be two years old to breed. There is no sudden magical transformation at this age that will reveal what your dog will produce genetically, physically or mentally, and it is not a magical age which any and all faults will suddenly be revealed. [/quote] Oh, of course not. It is silly, isn't it, how everyone jumps all over people wanting to breed dogs before they are 2. It's the same way with kids. I mean, our family is planning to breed our neice when she has her first period. She's a lovely child, smart, well-behaved. But for some odd reason people think we shouldn't breed her so young and some people are against breeding her at all. But what is so wrong, if she is going into heat, then she's ready, right? Why wait until she's 18, such an arbitrary age? We already know she's breeding quality. Ok, yeah, obviously I'm being sarcastic. I just don't understand how people are so willing and eager to pimp out their canine babies when they certainly would never propose such a thing for their human children. There are many dangers, risks, and costs involved in breeding, and a lot of responsibility. Beyond simply "finding good homes" you must ensure that you are not furthering genetic problems within the breed, and that the homes you pick will not be breeding, that they will care for the puppies their entire lives. And 2 years old is not an arbitrary number. Most dogs are not fully "grown up" until 2 at least, and 2 is when you can have health testing finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Alicat, I wasn't sure you could see me nodding my head, so I thought I'd post and say, "Brava!" Trinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Thanks guys...I'm working that and other info into a nice verbal response for the jerks who have the gall to ask if I'm going to breed my baby. Regardless of the fact that breeding should never be undertaken so lightly, he's a BABY! I feel so dirty and violated when people suggest such a thing, looking right at him, you can see he's just an innocent happy-go-lucky little toddler. Some friends and I have considered making up a pamphlet to hand out, you wouldn't believe the things some people say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 Oh Ali, trust me....I would believe the things that some people come up with. I had people telling me I needed to breed Val on her first heat because of her pedigree..... :evilbat: #1 SHE WAS A BABY!!!!! A little 6 month old BABY.....she wasn't physically or mentally ready to be bred (sometimes I worry if she is mentally ready now and she will 3 in May....not to mention my mental state at the thought of her upcoming breeding...lol) #2 HELLO have you people HEARD of health checks? #3 Who would breed a dog on pedigree ALONE? I just don't get that one and never will! #4 at 6 months you cannot have a proper idea of their structure since they are still growing. BTW, I think a pamphlet is a good idea, but you know the glazed over look they get in their eyes when you start discussing reputable breeding......all some people can see is $ signs. :roll: Later, Trinity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted December 30, 2002 Share Posted December 30, 2002 My poor little baby is only 4 months now, and people already say those things! The poor guy. One thing I have found that works to say, when you can tell the people are interested in making money, is to be friendly and just gush about how you could [i]never[/i] afford to get involved in breeding, there's just so much expense and time and energy involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbunch Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 [img]http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticons/happy/1074.gif[/img] Bravo Ali, I think you said what the rest of us were thinking but didn't know how to get it out. I applaud you whole heartedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Great post Alicat, exactly the right analogy to use :D Believe it or not people have asked me whether BK could be used as a father!!!!!! he is a mutt for chrissakes and a neutered one at that!!!!! :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted December 31, 2002 Share Posted December 31, 2002 Well, I guess this could be called flaming, but I think Poofy is a little poofed in the noggin! All of his or her, whatever the case may be, statememts are strictly that STATEMENTS; no facts. As mentioned in a post above, most breed specific testing cannot be done before the age of 2, and the fact that a male is neutered does not take away the desire to mate, it just makes it unproductive, nor does breeding a male ALWAYS make the dog undesirable as a pet, and I could dispel each statement, but I won't take the time here, as others and myself have done this time and time again. Poof's STATEMENTS only verify that Poof's a BYB. YUCK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 [quote name='Poofy']A dog does not HAVE to be two years old to breed. There is no sudden magical transformation at this age that will reveal what your dog will produce genetically, physically or mentally, and it is not a magical age which any and all faults will suddenly be revealed. In dogs, some people choose to breed them younger, that is a personal descision. B*tches should not be bred as early because raising a litter pulls reserves they need for growth. HOWEVER, the longer you wait to breed a dog, the better. The more time you give a dog to develope an anomilie, so you don't have to look back, years later and go "darn" the better. Also, breeding *often* changes the behavior in a dog. Once this behavior is established, it is usually irreversible. Male dogs will begin urinating and deficating in your house to mark territory. This behavior can also be seen in bitches who have been left intact. Breeding makes a male more territorial, and his hormones levels will rage everytime something goes into heat, even if it is a mile away. If this dog is a PET and not a show dog, or an important stud dog in a breeding program, neuter him and enjoy him. Stud dogs RARELY make good pets.[/quote] Guys, I think what he/she was trying to say is that: the longer a person waits to breed (if the bitch/stud is breed quality) the better. He/she was trying to say that at 2 years old, a person does not have to breed, but can wait until the dog is older to breed. If you skim the post > it does look pretty bad. Re-read it slowly. Maybe, I'm filling in the blank spaces > but it seems this poster is FOR neutering and spaying ....... and waiting [b]well after the dog/bitch is 2 yrs old to breed. :wink: [/b] (despite the statement [i]"In dogs, some people choose to breed them younger, that is a personal descision"[/i]). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 I gotcha Hobbit.. After I reread and and left out the one. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 [quote name='alicat613'] It's the same way with kids. I mean, our family is planning to breed our neice when she has her first period. She's a lovely child, smart, well-behaved. But for some odd reason people think we shouldn't breed her so young and some people are against breeding her at all. But what is so wrong, if she is going into heat, then she's ready, right? Why wait until she's 18, such an arbitrary age? We already know she's breeding quality. [/quote] Will you be seeking an outside male? .... or breeding her to her father or brother? :o :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowlabsrule Posted January 1, 2003 Share Posted January 1, 2003 [quote]Who would breed a dog on pedigree ALONE? I just don't get that one and never will![/quote] We could've done that with Winnie. Oh, it doesn't matter how bad her hips are, maybe the puppies couldn't even walk they're hips are so bad! :o No, we spayed her and I think that's what her parents owners should have done. So what that her dad was a master hunter. Even with that I would never breed a fair hip dog! And I don't think her mom was anything! She had fair hips to! :oops: :mad: Oh and the breeder did have a guarantee on the hips, but after two years with a dog who would give it up?! :mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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