wildbunch

K, This is serious! I hope everyone will join me in writing a letter to oppose this new ridiculous law. None of us will be able to give any advice to our fellow dog lovers unless we obtain a veterinary license. We won't be able to recommend dog food, warn others about bad medications, give helpful tips on behaviour or how to treat cuts, etc.... Basically no more forums. We could only discuss the fun antics of our beloved four legged friends. Not that I'm against discussing the fun side of our pets but still the nice thing about a forum is that you can count on your friends to give you advice instead of running to the vet every 5 seconds. Ugh! I'm so upset by this. My forum friends have saved me numerous times.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CROSS POST - COMMENTS MUST BE RECEIVED BY > MARCH 1, 2003 > > The AVMA has drafted a model Veterinary Practice Act which would > prohibit us > from sharing our knowledge about nutrition and health with one another by > telephone or via the internet. The draft will label anyone who > consults with > anyone about even alternative therapies as practicing veterinary medicine > without a license. Their intent is to get EACH STATE to legislate this Act > into law. > > If the AVMA is successful in getting the states to agree to this > abridgement > of free speech, to recommend (18a(iv)) a change in food or (18a(ii)) to > alleviate (18a(i))excessive gas, would constitute practicing veterinary > medicine and, if you were not a licensed vet, could result in criminal > prosecution. You could not telephone or email this type of inforamtion. > > The draft can be downloaded at > [url]http://www.avma.org/education/mvpa/default.asp[/url]. Please take the > time to read > it. Comments must be snail-mailed before March 1, 2003, to: > COMMENTS MUST BE SENT IN BY MAIL - PLEASE LET YOUR VOICE BE HEARD!!! > > Dr. Beth Sabin > AVMA > 1931 N Meacham Rd., Suite 100 > Schaumburg, IL 60173-4360 > > and be sure to CC your comments to: > Ancient Healing Arts Association > (healers@A...) > P .O. Box 75 > Cold Spring, NY 10516 > > They will present them en masse to the AVMA to ensure none are > lost in the cracks. (More information available on their site, > [url]http://www.ancienthealingarts.org/vets-1-03.htm[/url].) > > This new AVMA act reads, in part" > > 18. "Practice of veterinary medicine" means: > a) To diagnose, treat, correct, change, alleviate, or prevent animal > disease, illness, pain, deformity, defect, injury, or other physical, > dental, or mental conditions by any method or mode; including: > > i. the prescription, dispensing, administration, or application of any > drug, medicine, biologic, apparatus, anesthetic, or other therapeutic or > diagnostic substance or medical or surgical technique, or > > ii. the use of complementary, alternative, and integrative therapies, or > > iii. the use of any manual or mechanical procedure for reproductive > management, or > > iv. the rendering of advice or recommendation by any means including > telephonic and other electronic communications with regard to any of the > above. > > b) To represent, directly or indirectly, publicly or privately, an ability > and willingness to do an act described in subsection 18(a). > > Here is a quote from the commentary in this document > ***The AVMA recognizes that clients may seek any of a number of treatment > modalities for their animals. However, when applied to animals, these > treatment modalities represent the practice of veterinary medicine, and as > such, are subject to regulation as outlined in the practice act. If one > considers conventional veterinary drugs as atreatment modality, the AVMA > would define "veterinary drug" as drugs recognized for animal use in the > official US Pharmacopoeia or the official national formulary. This would > include but not be limited to medicated feed or water, growth-promoting > implants, and drugs labeled for human use administered under > extralabel use > guidelines. *** > > Lets pull together and stand up for our rights! Don't forget to > cross-post,

I was so sorry to hear of your loss Daisysmom. Remember the good and happy times you had with Trixie. All of my warmest thoughts and prayers go out to you at your time of sorrow. My condolences to you and Daisy.

I know I'm late BenSam but please accept my heartfelt regrets for your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you. Ben is in a painfree place of love and warmth. Hang in there! All our love and wishes. The Wildbunch

Wishes, prayers and thoughts go out to your "grammy" poofy. Hope there is some improvement today.

Hey everyone, I have been missing my forum family these past couple of weeks. Our malamute Willow is going through a very tough time now. Two weeks ago Willow woke up screaming in the middle of the night. He continued to scream about once every two hours. We rushed him to his new vet where she did another VOM Spinal Adjustment. He also received a cortizone shot and was put on pain meds for the night. He is now on anti-inflammatories as well. This has been a rough road as the vets still have no clue as to what is wrong with my baby. Next step is to get more serious with the pinched nerve theory and take him in for a special MRI. He has been going down hill these past couple of weeks but has shown a little improvement today. He actually curled his tail once and was able to move without yelping a great deal (a big plus in my book). We are icing down his shoulders every day and massaging two to three times per day. He is now sleeping peacefully which is a big relief. Other news: Kimba was spayed and gets her stiches out tomorrow, we will also get her first Rabies shot tomorrow. Shiloh is fine, fat and happy as usual :lol: I hope to pay more attention to my forum family soon. Just wanted to give you all an update. Hope all is well with your fur-kids. Any news I should know of? Did I miss anything important? I've missed you guys :oops:

Still no auctions thank Dog! What a pain in the butt, you'd think they would get the idea. :x :x

I know how you feel DP we went through the same thing. Start on the carpet keep walking, end up on wood floor (still going), then back to carpet before we can grab her. Fortunately it has been almost 2 months since her last accident. Good luck and hang in there.

They're all yours Yellow. My dogs would drop me flat on my face in a heart beat.

Completely baffled. Help us out Yellow. Moon walking shoes? They look dangerous. :wink:

What is the American justice system coming to? It's a let down for sure. I personally think she should have to do time serving animals in shelters and never be allowed to own an animal again.

I've tried to keep my nose clean on this one, but I've had it. How dare you accuse us! I have to say Poofy pretty much said it for me. How is it possible when we don't have your website, address, phone number, etc.... You really think we're going to waste our time and energy just to have animal control come over and say howdy. Come on now, be an adult about this. Has it crossed your mind that there are others who live near you that may not appreciate the way your dogs are housed. We are not the only dog lovers in the world you know! We have better things to be doing with our time and I feel no further effort should be given to her. There are other members who truly need us.

I know this will sound really mean but I've been told that a mouse trap works wonders for garbage theives. Put it on top and leave garbage as you normally would. Pooch sticks nose in and wallah, pup that doesn't like the garbage no matter what good smells come from it. For the other problems sounds like everyone has given you some good advice to start with. See if any of them work and then let us know what happens. Remember you have to attain alpha position. Sounds like miss Hazel is becoming a bit to big for her britches and needs someone to remind her that she is not alpha. Good luck.

Hilarious, thanks for the giggle. :lol: :lol:

Thank you HF and DogPaddle. That is what I've been trying to say all along. WHY do we need dog aggresive dogs? What purpose do they serve? If we eliminate the "game" "dog aggression" won't we be assisting with the effort to end pit dog fights. Am I completely off base here or am I just completely idiotic to the world of bully type breeds. I don't get it. Why do we need the dog aggression? It serves ABSOLUTELY NO PURPOSE. Any animal with a predisposition for aggression can ultimately end up hurting itself or others! Train and socialize your animals people. Trust me its not so bad, you develop a bond with your dog while training. Positive training shows the dog that when it obeys it is rewarded with affection, praise (and food). If your dog shows aggression take it to a trainer if you can, take it to supervised doggy daycare, parks, have friends over. Anything to show your dog that the behaviour is unacceptable. I admire and applaud those out there with aggressive dogs who are doing something, anything to improve the situation. This is my opinion on the situation. You don't have to agree. You will not change my opinion by trying to convince me that you're doing the world a favor by preserving this specific trait. I can see that Laduenda does not want to listen to reason so I am personally finished with the subject. I see no light at the end of the tunnel so to speak. By the way, sorry for the rude intro Raider. Welcome to our humble abode. We really are a good group of people who care/love our dogs and want nothing but the best for all canines. We support eachother in rough times and try to assist those in genuine need of guidance. I can't wait to see pictures of all of your babies. Glad to have you with us.