Guest Anonymous Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 can you breed 2 dachshunds that are both dappers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooeydog Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Yes, you can breed two dapple dachshunds together. Of course, the result will likely be a litter with a number of dead or deformed pups, but if you're willing to do heavy culling (killing deformed pups and even adults if problems don't show up until later), and are set on breeding the two, then yes, it is possible. Some of the common defects for double dapples (known as double merles in most other breeds) are immune deficiencies; eye deformities (where they eye either doesn't develop properly and is small or useless, or it can be completely missing) and blindness; ear deformities leading to deafness, etc; skin problems because of the lack of pigment in double-merled areas, and deformed or underdeveloped internal organs. These type of defects are NOT uncommon, and a responsible breeder would cull pups with such problems. Here is a webpage that goes more deeply into the problems double dapples have: [url]http://www.dachshund.org/article_double_dapple.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 No offense (and I mean this only if you are asking because you intend to do it, not out of curiousity), but if you have to ask, you shouldn't be breeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aonir Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Whats dapple? :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanvean Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 It's like merle, but in dachshunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aonir Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 Yah, DeafAussieLover just cant take them all in! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 can someone explain "dapple" to those of us who are obviously uninformed??? and "merle"???? I dont breed, so these terms are unfamiliar to me... help?? :o :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooeydog Posted September 30, 2003 Share Posted September 30, 2003 "Dapple and "merle" are coat patterns that occur in certain breeds (and some mixes of those breeds). The merle (or dapple, they're the same, the pattern is just called "dapple" in dachshunds) gene restricts pigment in affected areas, making them lighted. For example, in black and tan dachsunds, dappled areas on the black part would be a gray color, on the tan, a lighter tan. In red merles, the merled areas are a lighter red/tan color... you get the idea. When merling covers the eye, it will be blue. If it covers only part of the eye, the eye will be blue where the merle affects it, but the "normal" color where it didn't, resulting in multi-colored eyes. Merle is a dominant gene, and has to be "shown to be thrown", though there are such things as "phantom merles" where a dog is so lightly affected that it's nearly impossible to tell they're a merle. This is especially common in red Dachshunds, the merle pattern often seems to disappear by the time the pups reach 6-8 weeks of age (in fact, Annie's registration papers list her as a red merle, but I've never found any merled spots on her). "Double merles" occur when two merles are bred. Pups who happen to receive merle genes from both parents will get hit twice by the merling, once from each gene. The link I posted above explains much better and more clearly than I can on this. Merle occurs commonly in the following breeds: Dachshunds, Australian Shepherds, Great Danes (though it is not an accepted color for the breed), Catahoula Leopard Dogs, Collies, and I'm sure there are a few others I've missed. There have been claims of merle dogs of other breeds (APBTs being one of them), but because merle is never "hidden" like some recessive colors/patterns, it is highly unlikely that it just "popped up" like breeders of these merle dogs would like people to think. Add to that the fact that these dogs often look like they've had infusion of another breed... :-? Here are links to some pictrues of merle dogs... Go down to "Gold Star's Iceman", a black & tan merle: [url]http://www.catahoulaleopard.com/swdogs.htm[/url] A red merle: [url]http://www.catahoulas.com/cimmaron.htm[/url] A bit hard to tell, but looks like a red merle: [url]http://www.catahoulas.com/dog.htm[/url] A faintly merled black & tan dog: [url]http://www.catahoulas.com/ginger.htm[/url] The one in the upper left is a blue merle: [url]http://www.catahoulas.com/wilson_and_prowler.htm[/url] And here are some merled dachshunds (along with a brinndle and a couple piebalds): [url]http://www.dachshund-dca.org/Colors.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 Thank you Gooey!! :D :D :D I learn something new everyday.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellieangel Posted October 1, 2003 Share Posted October 1, 2003 [quote]if you have to ask, you shouldn't be breeding[/quote] Exactly what I was going to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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