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Luka's scared of other dogs at first (he'll cower and his hair will stick up), but he played with Cheetah's dog and they really got along. It's great that he has a play mate. But one thing did disturb my parents greatly, especially with my younger sister around. Cheetah's dog is spayed, and mine's neutered. Well, every time they get together and start getting all excited, well, they act as though they haven't been fixed yet, if you know what I mean :oops: ... Because my parents did't exactly appreciate this happening in the middle of their living room, I was wondering... Doesn't he know that they're both already FIXED :o !? Better yet, is there a way for Luka to stop doing this? I'd love Luka to have some canine friends of his own, but he needs to stop disturbing my parents and everybody else, for that matter! I know that this is a problem with some dogs, but not for others. What do I do??? HELP!!!!!!!

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It is embarassing isn't it? :oops: Hazel and my neighbor's dog Duke do the same thing if they get too excited. They are both Fixed as well!
When they do this, I (and Lexie to Duke) would scream "NO" and just seperate them, calm them both down, and wait a few minutes before they can play. Hazel and Duke haven't done this for quite sometime, so I'm guessing it's working a bit!
It's funny cuz we'd always joke that Duke and Haze are "boyfriend and girlfriend" but then when they started doing that I think THEY were taking it a little too seriously! :o :lol:

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Neutering and spaying don't take away the instinct or desire, just the ability to 'make something of it'.
Jesse was neutered at 6 months, he's now over 11 years old and STILL thinks he a dashing romeo.
Only thing you can do is watch the dogs, when you see them get that little gleam in their eyes, time for a time out!

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LOL reminds me of this one time... at the dog park... Blitz was shagging one dog, then another dog joined in and started shagging Blitz. So there were three of them jumping around getting their jollies. He was the meat in the sandwich and didn't seem to mind at all! :roll:

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It is a dominance thing, you are correct. The top dog is literally the top dog. Blitz and Rinny would play this game incessantly for the time it took for Rinny to give the top dog spot to Blitz, ie. about two years. Blitz still plays it at the dog park but to him it seems to be about trying to provoke a reaction out of the dog to get him or her to play with him as well as making sure he is the top dog.

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In Luka's case, I doubt that it's a dominance issue. When Cheetah's dog takes his toys, he'll actually back away and let Roxie have it. He's too submissive. He'll actually cower away when Roxie barks. Would a spray bottle work? A squirt at Luka when he gets too "excited."

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Actually...a couple of times Roxie tried to be the one on "top", and I wondered about that because she's well, a girl...makes sense now about the dominance thing. But I think when Luka's on top he just thinks he's a real studmuffin :wink: , he's not as much into the dominance thing.

Hmm...we'll definitely work on this next time we have them together, Luka-pop...and I think it would be best if we try to stop them before they get THAT excited. After seeing them go at it a couple of times, I'm starting to be able to read the hints when they're getting just a little too riled up. A strong no and a stop to the game (as Hazel suggested) will hopefully be enough to get the point across! But I don't think the spray bottle would work for Roxie...I can just see her turning around and trying to "eat" the water! Does the same thing with the sprinkler.... :lol:

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Pshaw, it's just the humpty dance. I don't mean this to sound as sarcastic as it might come out, but I think your parents might just need to lighten up a little bit. I mean, it's not THAT big a deal. Just break it up (or prevent it once you see it heading in that direction) and get their (the dogs) minds on something else. I always get kind of tickled at people who make such a big deal out of two dogs doing the humpty dance (ok, it would be different if you were at the dog park and your dog began trying to hump a total stranger...). Granted, it's not desirable behavior and I'm certainly not saying just let them have at it, but it's really not something your parents need to get THAT upset about. :lol:

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I think the only thing that grossed out my dad enough to stop Rinny and BK going at it was when Rinny was doing the humpty on BK's head and BK was licking his pizzle.... dog porn, I tell ya. Not that they care, but it's a little disturbing when you're outside trying to have a nice conversation. :roll: :D

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No, but you see, it's a bit different over here in NH. First of all, my sister and I both go to a "sheltered" Catholic school (ask Cheetah). Second, do you think that my parents appreciated my 10 year old sister witnessing the event? Not really... My sister's so sheltered that a couple of weeks ago she asked me, "What's a h*@r?" Not to mention that there are no swears or anything like that where we came from 6 years ago... It wouldn't be a big deal if it were just me, but it shouldn't be litoted as "it's just the humpty dance," for a 10 year old. I know it's not that big a deal, but it should be avoided if it could be, for the viwer's sake.

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Well...you're forgetting something Luka-pop, I moved from NY to NH when I was 13, so I'm not all that sheltered...if ya know what I mean (not as conservative down there..!) Also, I think it depends more on the family. My 11 year old brother has known all about sex and etc. since he was 8 , especially with me and my other brother bringing home all the new "stuff" we learned from school... My parents wouldn't get that freaked out if they saw Luka and Roxie having joyride in the living room, as long as they aren't humping US! Of course we would stop them...but they're dogs...and it's instinct! But everybody's parents have their own standards, and since it disturbed your parents, we'll definitely work on stopping them before they go that far! :wink:

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No, but you see, I don't think you get it. Picture how J.M. and her sister would react if they were witnesses... If they were a 10 on the scale, and really careless people were 1, my sister would be at around a 7 or 8. And lets not forget that we've been living in Yokohama most of our lives. And to top it off, my sister goes to PMA, a school run by nuns (although I must say that it's WAY better than the public Memorial). My parents wouldn't have gotten upset if it hadn't happened in the middle of the LIVING ROOM! She said that they should have stayed downstairs. Oh by the way, I've been humped by so many other dogs at the shelter, along with the other workers and volunteers, but my mom didn't care, cuz it wasn't in her carpeted LIVING ROOM! Lets not forget that my mom hasn't owned dogs before in her life, and that she's a PIANIST MUSICIAN, not some barn girl like me :D .

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Wow, now this is weird. I never went to any of the nunneries (sorry, but I still get tickled at the idea of these love and peace nuns who gladly put the smackdown on insubordinates :lol: ), but was raised in a pretty strict Christian household (well, excluding my devout atheist father if that counts... it didn't then).

Anyhoo, fast forward to now and I have a nine year old kid sister (MAJOR age difference here) who has been exposed to EVERYTHING. I am seriously (please forgive me) tickled at the idea of a 10 year old child being so sheltered (hey, my parents tried, too, but...) that dogs doing their thing would be considered SO offensive. Please forgive me and I do not mean to seem like I am poking fun, but it's just weird to me. My nine year old kid sister would think NOTHING of calling it a humpty dance. Then again, she has grown up with me as a big sister offering her such advice as, "Don't let 'em talk to you that way... tell 'em to kiss your *ss!" I also once gave her $20 to knock off her imaginary friend (ok, so I suck as a big sister). I will be the one buying her beer and cigarettes when she's 13 (ok, ok, maybe not quite THAT).

My kid sister is one who would probably wait until there was a house full of people and then call these etiquette challenged dogs in and tell everyone, "Watch this!!"

Anyway, I am just amazed at the culture differences. :lol:

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Okay, so maybe my sister is a bit on the shelterd side, but trust me, nobody in her class would enjoy watching the humty dance. She and the rest of the world knows what the dogs are doing, and they don't think that it's offensive, but it's just that she's not too pleased by the sight.

I mean, I'm a total barn girl, spending most of my free time riding a horse and mucking out stalls and grooming horses and rolling in the dust and hay. But my sis, she's a dancer. She's been dancing since she was 5 years old- ballet, jazz, and tap. She's actually pretty good, considering she's been recommended by the founder/director of her dance school to join many of their classes, and considering that her dance class has a better young dancer's program than the Boston ballet does, but anyways, I'm going off topic aren't I.

Anyways, my point is, that my sis may be sheltered, but little kids that are over exposed to that stuff aren't benefiting from the "experience," and my sis definitely isn't not benefiting. Why do you think the drug abuse cases and premartial sex age rates have lowered over the past 20 years? I'm not saying that anybody's yonger sib is gonna become a druggie (actually, I know a 13 year old girl from the barn who's been neglecting her horse because she's addicted to drugs-poor horse), but I don't see what the big deal is that she doesn't find all this pleasant.

It is a culture difference, cuz although a lot of people in Japan do get into trouble, the age rate is a lot higher than it is in the US, prolly at about 17 years old or so. By the way, nuns are weird, but private schools actually have way better education than public schools do, at least where I live. Nuns are so strict about rules, although that's not all of them, just the ones that grew up in the 40s and 50s. Actually, now that I think back to my nun days, I can't remember why I disliked them so much - I don't thing there really is a reason... By the way, we're not even Catholic... we don't even have a religion! And by the way, my parents don't need to lighten up any more than they are now. They've never grounded me for anything, they never get mad about grades, they'll drive me wherever I want to go, and they literally spend hundreds on my sis and my lessons every month. I think I'm thankful enuff already...

Okay, I'm done.

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Anyways, my point is, that my sis may be sheltered, but little kids that are over exposed to that stuff aren't benefiting from the "experience," and my sis definitely isn't not benefiting. Why do you think the drug abuse cases and premartial sex age rates have lowered over the past 20 years? I'm not saying that anybody's yonger sib is gonna become a druggie (actually, I know a 13 year old girl from the barn who's been neglecting her horse because she's addicted to drugs-poor horse), but I don't see what the big deal is that she doesn't find all this pleasant.

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You are too cute! :lol:

Ok, I think you may have gotten just a wee bit indignant. No one is saying anyone should find dog humping pleasant (I can't believe I'm actually debating this). It's just not THAT big a deal and I AM tickled that there are still people who get offended. It was my only point and, good gee golly, I'm sorry all over myself if you were offended at my saying your parents need to lighten up. It STILL seems weird to me, but hey, whatever works.

I do have to challenge the notion that exposing kids to the "real world" sets them up for failure later on. My point was that *I* would rather be the one discussing sex, drugs, dirty old men and humping dogs with my kid sister rather than relying on society to do it for me. I am brutally honest with her and pull no punches. I have found that the kids (that I know) who are so sheltered their whole lives often become overwhelmed when they are faced with all this new stuff (think college) and all of a sudden NO boundaries. Yikes! I'm 35 and she's 9 (will be 10 next month). She's a straight A student and even has a job working for a paraplegic woman (cooking, cleaning and such) and draws a weekly paycheck (child labor laws, my butt). So far, I don't think I've been such a huge bad influence on her (but we haven't started hitting the bars together yet... still working on her fake ID :lol: ).

Seriously, though, I think you are just cute as the dickens to be so concerned about this. :lol:

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hmm...I guess we'll just have to, for the most part, keep the dogs playing in the basement or outside, Luka-pop. The problem is that dogs really can't differentiate between the living room and the darkest dirtiest corner of the backyard...so we'll just have to keep the dogs out of the living room from now on! We'll also definitely work on teaching them that the game ends whenever they start to put "the moves" on each other, and hopefully they'll learn!
Personally, although a "catholic school girl" myself, i've really had pretty much no dealings with nuns (except the principle of my old school was a nun, but all the teachers were just regular people!), but from what i've heard, PMA is a pretty "sheltered" school...and I kinda understand where you're coming from...I think it might also be a little of a cultural difference (as you said). My mom has really *tried* to shelter me in a lotta ways...but we never had a problem talking about sex or anything. It's a part of life...and she's strictly against sex before marriage or using any protection (umm...); however, she never had a problem laying the facts straight...and dogs humping wouldn't be considered all that offensive in my household. Although we would definitely stop it...but then we would move on.
I think this does have a lot to do with the cultural difference and also, just what you're parents personally consider "proper." Of course, I totally respect them, it's their house, and as I said - we'll try to keep the dogs out of the living room from now on! :wink:
(sorry that was so long and I think I repeated myself...tired...)

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Which one is "top dog"? Mounting is a dominance behavior when they are arguing over who gets to be Alpha....

Mine do it all the time, and they're both fixed. They cant seem to decide who should be "top dog" so they do this when the question comes about...


Eventually they would work it out. My female was here first, and so thinks she is Alpha - my male has other ideas....he's bigger, stronger and male.

he's just too laid back to push the issue; and she takes advantage of it.

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I'm pretty sure Roxie is alpha because Luka has a very submissive personality. Roxie took one of his bones and when he tried to take it, she growled and wouldn't let him have it! Poor Luka just kinda stood there after that, looking a little confused - but he let her keep it! I think Roxie *tried* to mount Luka once or twice, but when Luka was up there, I really don't think he was thinking a thing about dominace...

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[quote name='sashagirl']:lol: Sasha humps Felony all the time... You want to talk embarrasing... How about having your lesbian dogs going at it in front of your soon to be inlaws!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

:lol: :lol: I am so glad Rinny and Blitz are over all of that. All we have to deal with is little sausage dog thinking he is a big tough Rotty and trying to hump BK's leg because that's all he can reach. :roll:

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Actually, the more I think about it the funnier it is, dog karma. Blitz did nothing for two years but jump on Rinny at every available opportunity (and always got put in his place), and now he must know what poor old Rinny felt like to be constantly annoyed by a randy puppy. (though having a 25 kg blue heeler grabbing him round the hips was probably worse than having a 10kg dachshund grab your back leg.)

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Yeah...I guess that's a plus side...at least Roxie and Luka aren't the same sex, lol - that would be even more disturbing! :lol: But it does prove the fact that humping is really more about dominance than anything else (unless of course you really do have a gay dog! :lol: )

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