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[quote name='Horsefeathers!']Cinco... I think they were, er, rhetorical questions.[/quote] :lol: :lol: Cinco thank's for answering but HF is corrrect. I don't expect everyone to post answers. I just wanted people to stop and think about all the things that they do with their dog's. Once they do I'm sure there will be plenty of things that they do that others will think are flat our wrong. My point is, that is ok. I know I can be self-righteous at times but for the most part I think we all need to stop (me included).

You know, when I first joined Dogo I had just got my first puppy and had read as much as I could on what was the “right” way to raise a dog. I was as high and mighty as the next person and had very strong opinions on what should and should never be done. Three years later I have a bit more experience with having dogs and have come to realize that there are no set rules of right and wrong and that the things that make up owning dogs come in many various shades of grey. I am no where near as judgmental as I used to be and have come to realize that most people are just doing the best they can in their given lives. In the time that I’ve been at Dogo there have been multiple topics that have caused arguments as someone thinks that what someone else does with their dogs is wrong. The idea of what is wrong is all based on perspective and one persons idea of right is another person’s idea of wrong and I’m sure all of us don’t do exactly the same things with our dogs. So what is it that you do? Do you : 1. Chain your dog 2. Crate your dog 3. Leave your dogs inside uncrated (got to watch out for those electrical cords you know) 4. Have your dogs outside unsupervised 5. Have your dog live outside 6. Keep your dog inside at all times due to not having a fenced yard 7. Have an intact dog 8. Have your dog de-sexed at 8 weeks 9. Wait to have your dog de-sexed – say a year old 10. Have a purebred dog 11. Have a mutt 12. Have a dog that was purposely bred to be a “designer dog” 13. Feed the cheapest supermarket dog food 14. Feed your dog bones 15. Feed your dog raw food 16. Let your dog ride in the back of a Ute 17. Let your dog ride in the front seat of the car 18. Let your dog ride in the car unsecured 19. Use a prong collar 20. Use a head halter 21. Use a choke chain 22. Use an e-collar 23. Vaccinate your dog every year 24. Don’t vaccinate your dog every year 25. Let you Pit bull play in dog parks 26. Let your dog play with tennis balls 27. Throw sticks for your dogs to catch 28. Breed your dog 29. Breed your dog under a certain age 30. Breed your dog over a certain age 31. Breed your dog a certain number of times 32. Breed your dog on consecutive heats 33. Ship puppies long distances 34. Crop your dogs ears 35. Dock your dogs tail 36. Believe in having dogs de-barked 37. Game test your dogs 38. Never take your dog for a walk 39. Never take your dog to any sort of formal obedience class 40. Have parents that don’t understand much about dogs and do everything contrary to what you try and do. 41. Go out to work and leave your dog at home alone without coming home at lunch to check on them. From memory there have been topics on all of the above. Some people see nothing wrong with some of these things and others think that you are the devil incarnate if you do some of these. I think we all need to get a bit of perspective. If someone does something that you don’t agree with, by all means say so – in a civil manner. However treating someone like they are the scum of the earth for doing something different to you or doing something that you wouldn’t do is narrow minded and I’d like to think most of us here are better than that.

Tammy, you are such an angel. I can't wait to see pics. Do you know why the owner was going to shoot her? :o

oops.... double post

Other people may think you are nuts.... but we all understand. :wink: I'm so glad that things worked out so well for you.

That is great to hear. Good for you. :D

I think ameline is talking about how much the hair etc will travel and what would probably effect her allergies the least. I.E. the bedroom is on the same floor that the dog will occupy - however there is a door that can be closed. The loft is on a separate level but there is no door to enclose the room. I think the question is which of these two options is best her allergies. I don't think it would make that much differnece, to tell the truth.

[quote].... I kept hearing "I forgot, your the expert since you breed your dogs you know everything" (in the snottiest possible voice you can imagine). [/quote] I can't stand it when people take that attitude. They know you are right so have to try and find a way to put you down too,

Nope no insurance here and no intention of getting any. Both dogs are very healthy and only ever go to the vet once a year for their annual vaccinations. If a problem does occur we will just deal with it and pay for it. In the long run I don't think insurance would be worth it for us.

What astounds me is that these women bow down to what the "hubby" says. Don't they have a mind of their own??? If so they should use it. :-?

Sending lots of positive thoughts.

Thank Dog I don't get cramps anymore.

LOL - his head and body have some serious catching up to do

[quote]When I post to these threads, I'm only offering input on the face value of what I read. With this thread, as well as in threads of the past, I had no idea there were underlying issues that contributed to others' input and opinions[/quote] I'm with HF on this one. I had no idea about the other issues that may or may not have been influencing other people's posts.

I wasn't really trying to answer for DAL, I just took exception to the attitude that just because she is the one leaving that she shouldn't have a care in the world and that she has no right to be upset. Just because someone does something that needs to be done it doesn’t mean that it's not upsetting or stressful. I guess this situation just hit a little to close to home for me as I am going through something similar. DAL matey, I'll leave you to answer Drew's questions. I just wanted to let you know that although I don't always agree with everything you say or do, when I do I'll say so and support you.

[quote]lol she's the one leaving him. Not the other way around. Really has no right to get upset about it. It’s 100% her choice. If it was her getting dumped I can imagine there may be some sort of abandonment issues that she’s trying to work out but that’s not the case. *shrug*[/quote] Grow up - this isn't two high school kids and one telling the other that they are dropped. This is a life altering decision and of course DAL has a right to be upset and of course she is going to be. Just because she has decided that her life needs to go in a different direction to Justin's it doesn't mean she will not be upset about it. Most people stay in an unhappy situation and plod along because that is the easiest thing to do. I applaud DAL's courage to take charge of her life and do what she needs to do to be happy. Just because she was the decision maker, it doesn't make her a bad person or mean that she has done something wrong.

Yeah but she didn't. However, now that she is leaving Justin and moving, some decisions need to be made. If Justin wants to keep Zoe and have his parents look after her while he is away and that arrangement is what DAL wants - then everyone is happy. Why is it such a big deal to everyone here? It's better than them fighting over her.

Congratulations. Sydney looks very proud of herself. :D Do we get to see a photo of her in her costume?

Glad to hear that he is recovering so well. The pictures are adorable.

[quote name='AllAmericanPUP']and what happens to the dog when justin cant keep it?? oh wait, thats right, you dont care :roll:[/quote] Ok, that was a bit out of line wasn't it. You don't even know Justin what makes you think he is not going to want to keep Zoe? I think you are just having a dig for the sake of it. Also, the other side of this is that DAL has no right to take a dog halfway across the country if she technically belongs to somone else.

Guys, settle down a little huh…….. My original concern was only with DAL saying that she didn't think she could handle keeping Zoe because she was Justin's. My only concern was that if Justin couldn't/wouldn't keep her then that's not a sufficient enough reason for DAL not to. However with that said, if Zoe is Justin's dog then of course Justin has to be given the option of keeping her. And if his parents are prepared to look after her in his absence then I don't think it's that much of an issue as long as Zoe will get the care and attention she needs. Of course splitting the dogs up may or may not be ideal (none of us know how attached to each other they are) but I don't think it's the end of the world. Dogs are adaptable - I don't think either of mine would curl up and die if they were separated from each other. As long as one of the options isn't taking Zoe to a shelter and that DAL is open to continuing to care for Zoe if Justin can't /won't then I don't really have an issue.

[quote]she is his dog and i dont know that i can handle having her knowing that she was his.[/quote] DAL I know everything you are going through right now is hard (and you know I fully support you), however being Justin's dog is not Zoe's fault. If he can't have her or doesn't want her then you need to put her best interests ahead of any thoughts of not being able to handle having her because she was Justin's.

Glad it all went well.

Sending both you and Pooh-Bear lots and lots of positive thoughts.

Mine eat all types of raw bones and plenty of those are raw chicken bones and we have never had any major issues. There have been a few times when things have gone down the wrong way but that's happened to me plenty of times too. Yeah the risk of choking is always there, but it's there with kibble too so for me and my dogs I think the benefits outweigh the risks.