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abker17

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  1. Awww, I absolutely adore chow mix pups! Let your mom play with him a little while and maybe she'll fall for him. :wink: Good luck! And we must have more pictures! :lol:
  2. Oh dear, this definitely isn't good. :-? I'd definitely be up for writing some letters to representatives or anything to help.
  3. A few years back Abby stole half a rack of ribs off the table. :roll: She's never really been a food stealer but she couldn't resist those ribs and I don't really blame her. :lol: Boy was my dad pissed though! She ate the whole thing amazingly fast before we could get it from her, she's lucky they all digested okay. :-?
  4. I'm really sorry to hear this news. :( Good thoughts coming to you and Cheech.
  5. I'm comfortable around most dogs. I usually make a point to take out the older or more "difficult" dogs when I volunteer at the shelter. The only thing that makes me feel uncomfortable is when the dog is [i]totally[/i] uninterested in me, because then the animal's feelings/what he or she is going to do can be harder to read.
  6. [quote]If both dogs are on lead it wouldnt be too hard too keep them apart.[/quote] :o Are you sure about that? Even dogs that aren't all muscle can show some amazing hidden strength when they want to get to another dog. Abby is (now) passive dog aggressive and I would still never, ever attempt to walk her next to another dog she didn't know, even if they were both on short leads. It's just way too risky. Even if you're using a choke collar or prong, with both hands being utilized to control the dogs it's hard to use those tools correctly and effeciantly. I just really can't fathom anyone being able to do that safely.
  7. [quote name='ESSlover'][quote name='abker17']I read the other thread and in defense of Dr. J I never got the impression that he was being "holier than thou", ESS. I too think he deserves an apology. [/quote] I know. I'm sorry, Jeff.[/quote] Oh ESS, I meant I thought that R2's personal attacks were uncalled for and that deserved an apology from her. That's between them though, just my opinion. :) [quote]I guess I just know that R2's training methods *do* work, and the way he was putting them down was just pissing me off. She doesnt know all she learned from a book, she has hands on experience.[/quote] I understand your frustration, were I in your position I would probably feel the same way. :)
  8. I read the other thread and in defense of Dr. J I never got the impression that he was being "holier than thou", ESS. I too think he deserves an apology. As for Cesar I really don't know much about him. Does anyone have any relatively unbiased articles/websites/whatever on him and his practices? Can I hear both sides of the debate? What don't you like about his practices R2?
  9. I saw a news program on this when I was very young that was pretty traumatizing. I'm not going to watch the video but I trust it is very bad. The methods used to kill the animals is disgusting and my heart aches that such cruelty is committed whilst the animals stand there wagging their tails at their murderers. :( If I'm understanding the letter correctly they want us to boycott all Chinese goods? That's very hard to do, so many things are imported from China. I already boycott things made with fur and I think that's a better solution. There should also be more publicity on this, I'm sure if the average person knew the animals were tortured in such a horrific manner they wouldn't buy products made with fur.
  10. [quote]where do you draw the line tho? sure, one person isn't going to make a difference, but when even just 1,000 people go by that thought and believe they are the one person an exception is in order for, that's 1,000 puppies bought from BYBs.[/quote] I'm not saying it's at all an excuse to go out and buy from a BYB. I'm saying that I will definitely be the last to give someone a hard time for rescuing a dog from a bad BYB situation, like that of DO. I'm also saying that the few educated people who do go to responsible breeders and rescues to adopt are obviously not making a big enough dent in the world of BYBs. Education really needs to become more prevelant and available.
  11. Okay, update. Right after I wrote the first post I didn't see Bella outside anywhere so I decided to try to get Abby (Who was basically bouncing off the walls,) a walk. As soon as we got across the street little Bella, who had apparently been camping out beside her owner's house, came running out at us baying like the antichrist had arrived. She kept her distance at first, and Abby's hackles were raised so I was trying to keep my distance as well. But I soon realized that she was going to follow us. So I walked up to the owner's house, and the guy came out and told me to take Abby up onto his porch and lure her up there. By this point Abby is snarling and being her un-friendly self, but I managed to pull her onto the porch and keep her away from Bella long enough for the woman to grab her and shove her inside. :roll: I was so shaken up that I didn't remember to ask the man how Bella keeps getting out or offer him any re-call training tips. (Not that they would probably bother to use them anyway.) :x
  12. The people that live across the street from me have a beagle named Bella. This dog gets out at least once every two weeks. Right now it's pitch black outside, raining, and the traffic is heavy. So of course, just as I come outside to walk Abby, I see Bella running around. Now you'd think that when someone's dog gets out they'd want to go chase after it and try to lure it back home... not Bella's owners. Instead they stand on their screened porch and WATCH the dog weave through traffic whilst *I* try to get her to come to me. I never really chase her, I just bend down near her and call her name, act real happy etc. I've caught her once before. And here's the kicker. These people stand out on their porch WITH THEIR CHILDREN, who are both under the age of 5. The little kids stand there and call Bella's name. What happens if Bella gets hit right in front of the children, which is a good possibility? Do these people even think? I'm so frustrated. This poor little dog. I chased her around for awhile but I'm so afraid I'm going to accidently chase her into the road or see her get hit. :(
  13. [quote]1. Is it ever ok to buy a dog from a back yard breedeer, even if you like the dog and want to keep if for yourself.[/quote] Like others have mentioned, I believe very little in this world is black and white. Each situation is different. Like in DO's case, it's hard to turn down a dog when you're sitting right in front of it watching it suffer and knowing you can make its life better. And honestly I don't believe ONE person not buying from a BYB makes much of a difference. The public really needs some education about BYBs- shelters already play the "save a life" card, but what also needs to be happening is educating people who really want a pure bred dog on what makes a responsible breeder. It's not that people are thinking "Gee I really want a $700 dollar dog that might not even be pure bred and will probably die by the age of 5 because its parents were never health tested." They're just ignorant. The majority of people have never been told about BYBs and how they hurt breeds and the pet population in general. They don't realize that just one litter is too many, etc etc. Education really needs to be expanded beyond "Save a life because it's the right thing to do." [quote]2. Is it ever ok for a rescuer to accept a dog from a back yard breeder?[/quote] I don't see why not. If rescues don't accept the dog/puppies who knows what could happen to them. The rescuer can also then get that breeders name and put him or her on DNA lists etc and maybe give a lecture on breeding puppies and adding further to the overpopulation problem. Since not all ignorance can be cured that might not always work but the shelter worker can go "Okay, look at these adorable puppies you just gave me. We're over flowing with puppies. I'm going to have to put down some adorable puppies just like these to make room for the ones you just brought in." Emotion gets to people more. Sometimes it's what can break through that thick wall of ignorance. [quote]3. Is it ever ok for rescue organizations to accept money from breeders, good or bad?[/quote] Of course. Slapping the label "dirty money" on it is just that- a label. That money can still be used to buy supplies for animals in need. A BYB donating money to a rescue is a good thing. At least that shows they have some sort of heart and realize that shelters need help. Then maybe shelter staff can get to know the person and talk to him/her about their breeding practices. It's just another oppurtunity to educate someone who might not realize how much what they're doing hurts the animals they care about. [quote]4. If you do any of the above, are you condoneing or supporting their practices?[/quote] Condone, no. You can buy a dog from someone in order to rescue the animal from a bad situation without condoning or in any way agreeing with how the breeder handles their dogs. As for support, it depends on the situation even then it's open to debate obviously.
  14. Hehe Abby loves getting ice from the ice maker! Whenever she hears it going she runs in and waits for an ice cube. :lol: She hasn't figured out how to get them herself though, thank god. :lol:
  15. I agree with Mal. Abby is the passive type of dog aggressive, (Or so she has become since I've worked with her on it.) like how Jessi describes her Sasha. But she loves people and she likes to go out and socialize, I love bringing her to the PETCO here when I get the chance. I have her wear a halti lead and keep her close to me, plus we avoid the other dogs in the store. I've never had any problems. Just as you should always ask permission to pet another dog you should always ask before you let your dog roam on up to some other dog you don't know. It really pis*es me off when people don't have the common sense to ask. Not all dogs are dog friendly. My dog is totally under my control, she shouldn't have to miss out on normal doggie activities because others are irresponsible.
  16. Ditto what schippsmom said, I'm gonna print these out and put them on the fridge, thanks a lot! :D
  17. I don't have a problem with rescues charging more for purebreds for the reasons BM said and also because won't that money go to help the rescue give more dogs good homes? I dunno, I just don't see a problem with it. But I can say that at $500 a piece those dogs have very, very little chance of going to a home together. :(
  18. Yeah, I'd love to bring Abby this time and maybe do a fun run. :D I've love to see your doggies again too! I'll let you know. :D And ESS- It's 2 hours away from me too. :wink: You should still try to come! :D Your parents could always spend the day in Richmond, Ashland is right outside the capitol and there are tons of things to do and see in the city.
  19. I'll tell my mom about it and see if I can come. :D I'd love to see you again Carol!
  20. CC I really don't think we should take this any further. spirallollipop realized she was in the wrong for being so quick to formulate an opinion on us. She did her research like we suggested and apologized. There is no need to start a board war by bringing her comments back up. She apologized, I see no need for a ban. She seems like a good person to me. Everyone makes mistakes.
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