PamelaJ Posted June 15, 2003 Posted June 15, 2003 My husband recently purchased this 6 month old male puppy, and his pedigree from the Dansk Racehunde Union says that he is a shih tzu, but when I compare him to my AKC registered female shih tzu, their facial features look different to me. Any advice will be appreciated. [img]http://www.raynor.dk/puppy/saxo.jpg[/img] Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 15, 2003 Author Posted June 15, 2003 for comparison, here is a picture of my female [img]http://www.raynor.dk/puppy/sorsha.jpg[/img] Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 15, 2003 Author Posted June 15, 2003 thanks for your reply K...your Lhasa is beautiful!!! a little hard to compare with your dog's beautiful hair...hehe i haven't done a lot of research on the Lhasa, but I have studied Shih Tzus... the male my husband recently bought doesn't have the underbite of my female, and as you said, the muzzle looks different... please keep the replies coming=) Quote
Angelboddy Posted June 15, 2003 Posted June 15, 2003 I use to breed Shih Tzu's. Lhaso Apso is bigger in size then a Shih Tzu, and the muzzel is alittle longer. As far as over bits go, Shih Tzus can have over bits, but that is not a good breeding line if they do. Males may be bigger in size then females. Females tend to be pettite. Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 15, 2003 Author Posted June 15, 2003 neither my male nor female has an OVERBITE...my female has a more noticeable UNDERBITE or UNDERSHOT thanks for your reply angel :) Quote
Angelboddy Posted June 15, 2003 Posted June 15, 2003 Your male definitly looks like a shih Tzu. But here is some pictures and info of the two breeds to help you out some. SHIH TZU [img]http://www.petsmart.com/aspca/images/dogs/shih_tzu.jpg[/img] Height: 8-11 inches Weight: 9-16 lbs. Life Span: 12-14 yrs. Breed Group: Companion Dogs Overview Shih Tzus are outgoing, happy, and affectionate companions that respond well to gentle obedience training. They love children, and get along with other animals and strangers. These small lapdogs are well suited to apartment living. Appearance The luxurious double coat is long, dense, and flowing, sometimes with a slight wave. Hair on top of the head is customarily tied up not only to enable the dog to see and to prevent eye infections, but also to be fashionable. All colors and markings are seen; the most common are black and white, gray and white, and tan and white. The heavily coated ears hang down, and the densely plumed tail curves well over the back. Grooming & Exercise Needs This breed must be brushed and combed daily to avoid severe matting. Most Shih Tzus are satisfied with a daily walk around the block and an occasional romp. Origins Over the centuries, depictions of this breed have appeared on Chinese carvings, embroideries, and other art objects. They were valued companions in Imperial China. Special Alerts It is especially important to obtain a Shih Tzu from a reputable breeder. Breed-related health concerns: congenital kidney problems, eye problems, hypertrophic pyloric gastropathy (a thickening of the junction of stomach and small intestine resulting in obstruction and vomiting), von Willebrand's disease (common disorder that causes excessive bleeding during or after surgery), atopy. LHASO APSO [img]http://www.petsmart.com/aspca/images/dogs/lhasa_apso.jpg[/img] Height: 10-11 inches Weight: 14-15 lbs. Life Span: 12-14 yrs. Breed Group: Companion Dogs Overview Most Lhasa apsos are even-tempered and friendly but not demonstrative. They are wary of strangers at first meeting but usually warm up before too long. Some Lhasas can be nippy with children. Early obedience training and socialization with children, adults, and other animals are important. When praised and treated gently, they do very well in obedience training. Appearance The coat is long, heavy, straight, hard, and dense (not woolly or silky). Coat color is sandy, honey, slate, smoke, dark grizzle, black, white, brown, or particolor. Grooming & Exercise Needs Lhasas need to be brushed and combed daily to avoid matting. The coat can also be clipped shorter for easier grooming. They need two to three short walks daily. Origins Small, shaggy dogs were known in Tibet as early as 800 B.C., and the dog we recognize today as the Lhasa apso has been known there since the 7th century A.D. The little "lion dogs" that barked at intruders became important watchdogs in Buddhist temples and monasteries. Special Alerts The Lhasa apso is unsuitable for inexperienced dog owners. Breed-related health concerns: entropion, progressive retinal atrophy, congenital kidney problems, atopy, intervertebral disc protrusion, patellar luxation. Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 16, 2003 Author Posted June 16, 2003 can someone give me an accurate definition of a double coat? as far as personalities go, the dog i know is a shih tzu and the one i think might be a Lhasa are reversed... Sorsha is more reserved and takes a while to warm up to people...Saxo is friendly to everyone Quote
Sanvean Posted June 16, 2003 Posted June 16, 2003 Lhasas and shih-tzus can look quite similar as puppies, IMO. Most of the shih-tzus I know are very friendly, while most lhasas are more reserved, but perhaps that's different overseas. Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 16, 2003 Author Posted June 16, 2003 Saxo definitely has the Shih Tzu personality, but he is a little more independent than my female. We are going to the vet tomorrow. This is my first experience with a vet in Denmark so I am hoping he is both good with the dogs and knowledgable about the breed. Quote
Angelboddy Posted June 16, 2003 Posted June 16, 2003 [quote name='PamelaJ']can someone give me an accurate definition of a double coat?[/quote] Definition for double coat: A dog's coat of fur that has a long outer layer of fur, overtop a downy, thick inner layer of insulating fur. Quote
Horsefeathers! Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 How to say this without sounding insulting... It doesn't look like a "proper" Shih Tzu, but I do not see that Lhasa "expression" there, either. I'm guessing Shih. Cute dog... cute as can be, but I just don't see Lhasa there. They have such a distinct expression. Lhasas were tops on my list of favorite breeds and I was studying and considering showing them for a while until I fell in love with Standard Poodles. I have two Lhasa Apsos and still do adore the breed, though. Shihs do typically tend to be more outgoing and affectionate where Lhasas are usually more reserved and wary. They don't warm up to strangers very quickly. They were actually bred for inside palace guard dogs, so they aren't really just lap dogs (again, generally speaking... I always have someone tell me, "yeah? well, my Lhasa is the sweetest, cuddliest, smoochiest thing ever...." ok, it can happen). I guess what I like about Lhasas is that they ARE more independent rather than "clingy," if that makes sense. Shihs are one of the sweetest tempered breeds I've ever known. Enjoy. :) K, [u]your[/u] Lhasa Apso is lovely. *snicker* :P Quote
Horsefeathers! Posted June 17, 2003 Posted June 17, 2003 Just for comparison, these are my Lhasa Apsos. The first one is my female in full coat. The second is my male in a short trim. Still, the expressions are pretty similar (and these are poorly bred, NOT show quality dogs, but you can still see the "expression). Weird thing is I recently shaved the female naked and now the male is FINALLY in coat. They are now opposite their photos. :-? [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XQDnAqUedd0EC!izW5p9mWZ8v*F8I!pJ6IUaOE*GiipVu7RhniHyI2D7v5LjJpZQqh4XYV37uxUE*4CGUwJDyr*lYCswVwpLemESm2dBCAwojQicq0EL!QmhpVhC8K7XbZGaz6tLcfA/Missyagain.jpg?dc=4675379075352103430[/img] [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0WACvBOMbFOsaSYG51qsxpJYIiEKsMT9TfzZEtbLsPHvsl136frmuLk3sewvVebUwpko6MUxJ*kej4mPl8KOxjgRcUM4vV8IbCsd1UYqAP1wT45abAzPnGBMOEnW5WJaTMgAAAP****8/Fred1.JPG?dc=4675382215984683875[/img] Quote
PamelaJ Posted June 17, 2003 Author Posted June 17, 2003 thanks so much horsefeathers...the pics were a great help...he doesn't look so Lhasa to me anymore... please see my homepage at [url]http://www.raynor.dk/puppy/[/url] for more pics of him...that may help you even more in determining his breed :D Quote
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