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Thanks Dogpaddle, It has only happened to him twice. Once this week and once last week. The first time it happened it was after he had the salmon, I ate most of the salmon and so did my other dogs, so its not poisoning. The 2nd time it was after his normal kibble meal on Innova and I added some fresh veggies. He gets left overs in his food alot and I make home made meals too. He has had salmon many times and other fish, he has also had veggies many times. When I am gone he is in his kennel with my other dogs. I have a huge outdoor kennel wiht 9ft fencing and a shed which is insulated for them. The other Husky is out with him and there is nothing in the kennel I can find that they may have eaten. I have fresh pebble rock which was washed on the ground and other than that theres nothing else in there for them. I havent even left them any bones in the kennel for weeks. I guess I will take him to the vet. He just looks great now. I just don't know why he did this twice. Hes around 6 and never done some thing like this before. Thanks once again Dogpaddle, Ill take your advise. :wink:

ONe more thing, my dog does not exercise right after eating. I always have my dogs rest for about 1 hour before going for a walk. So, its not due to exercising right after eating. :hmmmm:

Sorry to hear about smudge. [quote][b]CPV-2 (Parvo) is known to survive on inanimate objects - such as clothing, food pans, and cage floors - for 5 months and longer in the right conditions.[/b] Insects and rodents may also serve as vectors playing an important role in the transmission of the disease. [b]All parvoviruses are extremely stable and are resistant to adverse environmental influences such as low pH and high heat. Exposure to ultraviolet light and sodium hypochlorite (a 1:32 dilution of household bleach -

I wanted to mention that I did call the vet and they said they don't have any appointments open, unless its an emergency. Is this a emergency? My vet is pretty booked up for routine visits.

One of my dogs has me really concerned, and I don't know if its some thing that might be an emergency or vet appointment related. I gave my dogs some fresh salmon with their meal last week. I deboned it all (it was cooked, I ate some too). My husky about 1 hour after the meal started drooling, I mean really big splatters of drool and his whole front chest and legs were drenched and he kept licking his mouth. I thought at that time that he had got a bone stuck in his throat. I was going to take him to the vet the next morning. He wasn't listless or uncomfortable if he was I would have rushed him in. Any way, the next morning he was fine and back to his old self of being a non drooler. I forgot about it and passed it off as just being a bone caught that dislodged on its own. Last night after I fed my dogs he did the same thing, there was no salmon to blame. The only thing I added to his meal was carrots, spinach and broccoli. About 1 hour after the meal he began to drool, I though maybe he was full of gas, then I checked his belly to see if he was bloating. His belly felt fine. He was drooling so much he drenched my bed sheets on my bed, I had to change them. I checked his lymph node on his neck and back legs to see if they were swelled, they werent. Now this morning he is fine again. Now, during these 2 episodes he has not been lethargic or restless or even uncomfortable, he just drools excessevily. Should I make an appointment or does some one here know what it might be?

Sounds like your pup is training you. Hes doing a pretty good job of it :lol: You should implement some rules in your household like the NIFIL policy. That way your dog will respect your rules. Dogs and pups learn behaviors which get attention and any attention is good attention weather it be you chasing him around the house calling him every 4 letter word out there, or if you are rewording him with a treat. They learn by repetition and attention. You dog has learned to get your attention and he is pretty strong willed about it. Try implementing some ground rules and don't give in when hes naughty. If hes being good and laying there like an angel, reward him for it by telling him good boy and a pat. Ignore the bad, reward the good :wink:

Thanks for clearing that up. I just heard that the other day, cause theres a (supposed) drug dealer in my area. He has quite a few dogs and that is what some one told me the reason he has all the dogs. Maybe he just loves dogs :thumbs:

Is this true? I heard that drug dealers (major dealers) keep a lot of dogs around so they always have a dog in heat. I heard that if police ever searched the home or property the smell will keep the canine unit off the scent of dope? :hmmmm:

[quote]A good friend who does Pyr rescue refused to place a dog for an owner who didn't want him anymore because the dog was dangerously aggressive. These people ignored her concerns completely and set out to place him on their own-in a home with children[/quote] pyrless that is horrible! :o :(

Great info every one. I think the worst breed I heard about misrepresenting is the border collie. I have seen in my obedience class (I attend, I don't teach :lol: ) new owners with border collies, the owners never owned a dog before and got the border collie cause they are so cute, and isnt a collie supposed to be great with kids. Now, I don't know a lot about border collies but most these owners looked like they were at wits end with this wild black and white zoomer dog on the leash. I hear them complaining the dog chases every thing that moves, cars are a new passion for the dog, the living room window is now off limits. All they wanted was a pretty black & white dog to sit prettiely by their side and play fetch with the kids. The obedience instructor said that in actual fact they got a good working collie :-? then they end up going to a behaviorist for a problem for the owner but quite natural for the border collie. The border collie gets bored and destructive and you just know that your going to see the dog ending up in a shelter because of behavioral problems. Sometimes I think border collies are unfairly representated. Now, I don't own one so I don't really have a clue about them. But, in the back of my mind I know they are supposed to be one of the greatest herding dogs. To me this breed is a poor choice for a first time lazy type owner who is not going to give it lots of exercise or a job to do.

I was just curious about this and how each person felt about this and how they would answer this about their favorite breed. The reason I ask is because it seems ever time a topic comes up on breeds people always say, oh I knew or owned a Rottweiler and he was the sweetest dog ever. I mean I think its kinda misleading when people tell others that even though a breed was specially designed for guarding or other special duties to say that people are idiots to be wary of them cause they are all so sweet. They base it on their own few encounters or ownership. Basically what I am trying to say, it seems that people give out false representation of different breeds thinking some how they are protecting them from breed banning. When in actual fact they are making it more dangerous for people and the breed. Sure there are all kinds of sweet guarding dogs and dogs bred for dog fighting which don't fit the standard of the breed. But, instead of people saying all Rotties are sweet and adorable cause I owned one that was so. Shouldn't they instead say some thing like..."yeah, I owned one and it was wonderful....but, they were orginally bred to herd cattle so they do have a higher prey drive than other breeds" or "They make good guard dogs and really need to have more socialization than a lot of other breeds" In other words why don't people tell the truth and help the breed by understanding instead of trying to hide different temperments which were intentionally bred into them? The reason I mentioned this is because I was talking to a reputable Rottweiler breeder at a dog show he was doing obedience. He is the person who mentioned that people who don't understand the breed and their potential are the ones who make for dangerous owners. He also said he is very straightforward about the special enhanced features of the Rottie. He also said each breed is unique and they should not all be glumped together. He said it is frustrating when he hears people misrepresenting the breed. It seems the most dangerous owners are the do gooders who basically take a breed designed for a specific purpose and try to portray to the world through their dog that they are nothing like what they were orginally bred for. If this makes sense then you are very good at reading between the lines. Im not the easiest person to understand. :lol: :wink:

[url]http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1551&articleid=2545[/url] [quote]How is noise phobia treated? There is no "cure" for noise phobia, but there are ways to try to reduce the fear. First, refrain from giving rewards or punishment. This is extremely important. Petting, consoling, or even saying, "It's OK," may be interpreted by the pet as a reward for the fearful response. In the event of comforting a dog during a storm, for example, it may signal to the pet that the storm really is something he should be afraid of. Similarly, the pet should not be punished for showing fear. This will only increase his anxiety level. Usually treatment includes three other facets: medications, changing the environment, and behavior modification. Administer medications: Medications may be given individually or in combination. In some instances, the medication may be administered during an entire thunderstorm season. Others may be given when a storm or noisy event (Fourth of July fireworks) is expected. A common protocol is to give amitriptyline during the storm season, and valium when a storm is predicted. The valium or other quick-acting medication needs to be given prior to the development of any behavioral or physical signs of anxiety. If there is a chance of a storm predicted for the afternoon, the pet should start receiving the valium or similar medication in the morning. Pets who also exhibit separation anxiety may need a different combination of medications. Several combinations may need to be tried before the optimum regimen for a particular animal is determined. Many of the medications that would be used on a daily basis, e.g.; Amitriptyline, Prozac, and Buspirone, may take 3-4 weeks to see an effect. Examples of medications used include: Alprazolam (Xanax) Amitriptyline (Elavil) Buspirone (Buspar) Clomipramine (Clomicalm) Clorazepate (Tranxene) Diazepam (Valium) Fluoxetine (Prozac) Inderal Paroxetine (Paxil) Tranxene-SD Alternative therapies have also been used with some success. These include melatonin and flower essences such as Rescue Remedy. These two therapies take effect within an hour of administration, and should be given prior to the storm or other fear-producing event. Change environment: By changing the environment of the animal during the storm or noise, the anxiety level can be reduced. Changing the environment may reduce the volume level of the sound or help make the pet less aware of it. Increase vigorous exercise: The pet should receive vigorous exercise daily, and more so on a day when the fear-producing noise is likely to occur. The exercise will help to tire the animal, both mentally and physically, and may make her less responsive to the noise. In addition, exercise has the effect of increasing natural serotonin levels, which can act as a sedative. Reduce or block the noise level: "White noise," such as running a fan or air conditioner may aid in blocking out some of the fear-producing noise. Playing a TV or radio can have a similar effect. Allowing the pet access to the basement or a room without outside walls or windows may decrease the noise level. Closing the windows and curtains can also help reduce the noise. Some owners have placed foam earplugs or cotton balls in their pets' ears. Create a safe haven: Some pets feel more comfortable in a small space such as a crate or a small room like a bathroom (run the fan and leave the lights on). Some pets seek out the safety of the bathtub or shower during a storm. (Some have hypothesized that a pet may feel less static electricity if on tile or porcelain.) If the pet is comfortable in a crate, the crate can be covered with a blanket to add to the feeling of security. The door to the crate should be left open and the pet should not be confined to the crate, which could dramatically increase the stress level. Some pets, especially cats, may find that a closet or area under the bed makes a good retreat. Project a calm attitude: Pets are very aware of the mental state of their owners. If you are worried or nervous, this will add to the pet's fear. Your pet will look to you for direction, so keep an "upbeat" and "in charge" attitude. Maintain good health and nutrition: Health problems may increase the stress level of pets, and increase their anxiety. For instance, a dog in pain because of hip dysplasia may be more irritable and prone to other behavior changes. Diets too high in protein have been linked to some behavioral problems. Consult your veterinarian if you would like advice about changing your pet's diet. Behavior modification: Special techniques can be used to help change the animal's response to the noise. Counterconditioning: Using counterconditioning, the animal is taught to display an acceptable behavior rather than an unacceptable one as a response to a certain stimulus. In this way, a negative stimulus can become associated with a positive event. For instance, the only time the pet gets his most favorite treat, game, or toy, is just prior to and during a thunderstorm. Dogs who enjoy traveling may be taken for a car ride, or cats who love catnip, may be given their favorite catnip mouse. (Dogs who enjoy swimming will need to wait inside until the storm is over!) After a time, the pet will start associating an oncoming storm with getting to have his favorite thing. Desensitization: Using desensitization, the animal's response is decreased while he is exposed to increasing levels of the fear-producing stimulus. For noise phobias, the animal is taught to be calm when the noise level is low, and then the noise level is gradually increased. This process is generally more successful in dogs than cats. To desensitize a pet to thunderstorms: Obtain a commercial tape of a storm, or tape record one yourself (commercial tapes generally work better). Play the tape at normal volume to determine if it will induce the fear response. If it does, continue with the desensitization; if not, you will need to obtain a different tape. For some animals, a tape alone may not work, since there may be a combination of occurrences that provokes fear, e.g.; thunder plus lightning or changes in barometric pressure. For these animals, darkening the room and adding strobe lights may more closely mimic the storm, and may need to be included in the desensitization process. Play the tape at a volume low enough that the pet is aware of the sound, but it does not induce a fear response. For instance, the ears may be cocked towards the tape player, but you still have the pet's attention. In some instances, that may mean the pet needs to be in a different room from where the tape is playing. While the tape is playing at the low level, engage the pet in an activity in which you give the commands, such as obedience training or performing tricks. Give food or other rewards during the activity when the pet accomplishes what he is supposed to. If the animal shows signs of fear, stop and try again the next day, playing the tape at an even lower level. It is important that the pet not be rewarded while he is fearful or anxious. Sessions should last about 20 minutes. If the animal does not respond fearfully, during the next session, increase the volume slightly. Again, involve the pet in an activity and reward it for obeying commands. Continue increasing the volume gradually for each session. If the pet starts to show fear, decrease the volume. Repeat the sessions in various rooms of the house and with various family members present. When the pet does not show fear when the tape is played at a loud volume, you may want to try playing the tape for a short time while you are absent. Gradually increase the time you are gone while the tape is playing. When the pet appears to have lost his fear, the sessions can be reduced to one per week. In most instances, these sessions will need to be repeated weekly for the life of the pet. During an actual storm, use the same activities and rewards you used in the training sessions. To increase the chances of successful desensitization, the training process should take place during a time of the year when the actual noise will not be encountered: if the pet is afraid of thunder or fireworks, try desensitization during the winter; if afraid of gunshots, the training should take place outside of the hunting season. In most instances, it is best to discontinue any behavior-modifying medications during the desensitization process. Consult with your veterinarian before discontinuing any medications. Conclusion Fear of thunderstorms and other forms of noise phobia are common problems in dogs, and some cats. Administering medications along with changing the pets environment, and using behavior modification techniques can help ease the fear. Above all, do not give your pet any attention or reward when he is showing signs of fear; this will only reinforce the fearful behavior[/quote]

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And let the games begin :lol: [quote]I was cleaning and moved a chair into the middle of the living room. This apparently spawned the game[/quote] For some reason the picture of a ring master at a circus came to mind. Swingin a chair with a whip and spurring the beast's into action. :lol: Its nice to see your quite enjoying your dogs new found play time. It sounds like they had a blast. :wink:

Thanks every one so much. The information is wonderful, I havent had a chance yet to look at the sites but Im going to do that right now. Thanks again.

Thanks courtnek This is a crazy dream of mine which will probably never pan out. But, I am really going to look into it and make sure I get proper courses first. Think Ill go up to city hall tomarrow about zoning and bylaws.

I actually help out "local" dogs in need. can't the new owners get a loan from their bank? at the vet clinic I go to I had a big surgery I couldn't afford and the vets let me pay it off at my convience. Can't Boxer Haven put in a good word with the local vet? There are too many dogs that need financial help in my area.

OK, I have a really horrible job that I hate. I was thinking about maybe taking a massage therapy course, checked into it and wow the course is right expensive. Any how, I got thinkin about maybe setting up a doggy day care, in my city we do not have one :o and we only have about 2 dog kennels. Thats not including the vet clinics which board. Any how, back to doggy day care :lol: In your areas is Doggy day care a big thing? What courses beside dog first aid should I take, I have never taken any courses but I read a lot. Is there any courses on line I can take? they don't offer any animal care tech courses around here. Not a vet tech course, just animal care tech. I know a behaviorist in my area, I was thinkin about talking to her about behavior. I do know some stuff. I will have to check out zoning and also find a rentable area where I could have a fenced in area. It will also have to be easy for people to drop off and pick up on their way to/from work. should I make up a survey and drop off at the local dog groomers and vet shops to see if there is a demand? should I make sure Im not steppin on any ones toes? I am pretty sure there are no doggy day care as there is nothing listed in my phone book. Does any one know a good site. I have been surfing the net and can't find any good sites. Is it hard to set up your own business. Im not married and have no one to support me, am I crazy? I was also thinkin in time to take courses like T-touch therapy for dogs only, and a little massage therapy for dogs only. That way for geriatrics I would be able to offer a little extra for them. :wink: Do I have to be a behaviorist or obedience trainer before starting some thing like this?

Check out the black dane with the same type white spot on chest. Last picture down. [url]http://www.xcelco.on.ca/~fanina/gdanes04.htm[/url]

OK, it just didnt say that in the info you gave. It said in one part about finding dogs stalking livestock. Wasnt sure if that was these dogs or not. :wink:

It didnt say what else the dogs did. Where they stalking livestock. In some areas if a dog is caught stalking livestock they can be shot on site. It all sounds innocent enough on the owners part that the dogs just got loose one day. But, is it that innocent? I have seen a few owners cry over their dogs being confiscated and denying the dogs ever ran at large. Only to find out later the dogs had been a nuisance in the neighborhood for quite some time. Its good that people are coming forward if the dogs seemed dangerous. YOu always hear after some one was killed or horribly attacked by a dog that they always knew the dog was a problem, or that they were always a little timid, or the dog was a bother

[quote]This year I've decided to take Zebra to see a groomer for the first time. He's getting a little shaggy[/quote] Starfox, Im sure your dog wont consider this a gift :lol: its almost comparable to someone takin you to the dentist for a teeth cleaning for an X-mas gift. :lol: My dogs all get balls and toys, they all get to open their own gifts. You should see them tear off the paper. I think they like that better than their gifts :-?

[quote]Why would anyone do that? What's the point for them? Sorry...I've just never heard of anything like that before. [/quote] I heard that some times people steal dogs to use for Lab experiements. I also heard they steal them and sell to dog food companies. They get paid money for the dogs they steal and no questions asked. If they adopted dogs from a local shelter too many questions are asked.

TDG, If I remember correctly isnt there a kind of solid gold dog food which suggests adding meat to it?