Shetland Sheepdog Breeder Info Needed!

[Guest Anonymous]

[color=darkred][/color]I bought a sheltie male from a petstore in Kentucky. He was registered and given his breeder's name and his sire and dams name. I am going to put him up for stud/show him. I really need information about his parents and breeder.

Sire: Rideveiws Cowboy Cody AKC DNA #V113755
Dam: Dixie Belle of Dyllis

Breeder: Melissa Wurschmidt

PLEASE HELP! :cry:

[Guest Anonymous]

There are too many pets in the world already and not enough homes. It would be a big mistake to breed him. There are a million reasons not to anyhow...including he is from a puppy mill or back yard breeder. Please have him neutered. It's the right thing to do. A great magazine to check out is "Sheltie Talk".

Connie

[Guest Anonymous]

Also, the chances of him being show quality are extremely slim. Have you thought about obedience, agility, flyball, or such? For more info contact the breed club

Connie

[Guest Anonymous]

I just sent a picture of him to the gallery...I dont know when it will be there but I think he is show quality. Exactly 15" Anyway look at his picture when It gets there...his registered name is Dusty Boy Blu. I have considered Agility because he jumps about anything. We are going to get a sheltie female sometime and breed them :P

[Guest Anonymous]

You can tell a lot from a picture, but far from everything...health, temperament, movement, etc. Also, you not only have to have a good dog to breed, but to breed to. If he's a blue merle, don't even think about other blue merles...or sable. I think blue merle x tri or blue merle x bi black. I really hope you'll talk to some reputable breeders. There's far more to breeding than putting two cute dogs together. It takes a lot of researching, space, money, etc. If you love him and the breed...do it right.

Connie

[ShadyLady]

Desti if you go to the message board at [url]http:// www.mydogsite.com[/url] you will find a lady there known as Bryna who has been in the sheltie breed for a long time she can point you in the right direction

[Guest Anonymous]

Even the vet said we should get him checked out. In January we are going to get his eyes checked and we are going to be joining an akc group called Five Flags....something. Anyway he is a sable and I am going to try to do everything right. The vet gave us #s of places where we can go to get him checked and approved for breeding. :angel:

[Guest Anonymous]

Ok I am sorry I am not a member but this post ahs been brought to my attention as I have been breeding shelties for 15 yrs and my mother for 35 yrs, so I am not a new person in this breed.
First off any dog at a pet store is probably not quality enough to breed.
secondly there are a ton of things you to know before you would breed, you need to test a sheltie hypothyridism, dermamytisitus, CEA, OFA, and many others those a just the 4 main ones those tests alone will cost about $1000 not to mention that no dog that is not a great representation of the breed should be bred. You also need to get a show quality bitch to breed this male of yours to, another 1500 for a 12 wk old pup then all of her test, then you have to raise them to 2 1/2 to 3 yrs of age figure low at 5000 per yr to care for the dogs so that is another 15,000. Plus now you have additional vet care for mom and pups approx 500 per litter for a routine litter add 1500 if you need a c-section. I am not trying to scare you just stating facts only. I could have just came and degraded your pet shop dog but I did not I am hoping you can see that by the time you have finally gotten your litter you have way invested than you will ever earn so this must be a labor of love. However if you still really want to breed I am Bryna from mydogsite as stated in the above post and I will be ahppy to answer any and all of your questions.

[Guest Anonymous]

I would hope that you are for real and not a troll, as this is just the type of message that one would post. If you are for real, and I do have my doubts, this message is not to slam you but to educate you. If you are a troll, then it will be above your head.

There isn't a reputable breeder alive that would dare sell to a pet store. You did no research or you would know never to buy from a pet store (and we are trying to get laws in place that ban live animal selling by pet stores) or a backyard breeder. I can tell you that you paid way above what a reputable breeder would charge for a pet quality pup, as pet stores also will triple prices. As said, their dogs come from puppy mills and very bad backyard breeders who do no breed specific testing on their dogs. They do it strictly for the money. Most times, the animals are in poor condition and problems develop down the road. Vets are not reliable sources for breeding standards. You need to research and learn a lot more about your breed before you ever consider breeding, and you need to start in the show ring. However, I do not believe your dog will be breeding or show quality, and I seriously doubt he meets the Sheltie standard. The height that you gave hardly means he meets the standard, as it isn't just about size. It has many factors. Reputable breeders rarely start out breeding their female to one of their own males. They take it to a reputable breeder/shower for evaluation and breed to a suggested male who has attained his championship, and from there they may have a foundation bitch. It's a very long learning process and no male or female should ever be bred until the age of 2, after all the proper breed specific testing. Go to some shows and talk to reputable breeders and handlers.
The fact that your dog is most likely not show or breeding quality, should not deter you from enjoying her and doing obedience and/or agility. Shelties are in my book right out in front with agility with the Border Collies, and Aussies. Are you aware that reputable breeders very, very rarely break even with a litter? any litters!

[Guest Anonymous]

He might be show quality i said.....god, Anyway hes a picture I fixed up...
[url]http://www.angelfire.com/games5/bcy/dusty5.jpg[/url]

DONT CLICK ON THE LINK! HIGHLIGHT IT AND COPY IT THEN PASTE IT INTO THE ADDRESSBOX! THATS THE ONLY WAY IT WONT BLOCK YOU!

[Guest Anonymous]

Ok I went to the photo and I can tell you he is a pet only a pet that dog should not be bred ever, her has large round eyes, prick ears, and although i cannot see topline and other features I would have liked to I do not need to as he is not a typey sheltie. Please have this dog fixed!!!! If you really want to breed that is fine but talk to us who know about the breed so you can learn and understand what being a breeder entails.

[Guest Anonymous]

He's beautiful, but pet quality. There are so many other fun things you can do with him, please neuter him. There are plenty of Shelties to meet the demand--far too many. Would you really want to produce puppies that may someday be dumped, taken to a shelter, etc. It's not what you want to hear, but would you rather us lie?

Connie

[shorty]

Hi Bryna :n00b: Welcome to the board

[Guest Anonymous]

Im not getting him fixed...but I am getting together with an AKC group and they do monthly shows. He would make a fine agility dog! :) I made a course in my backyard and he can do it all.


Hey at least im not like my friend! (Check the post at the breeding forum i put about what my evil firend did)

[Guest Anonymous]

To show a dog in agility it does not have to be intact in fact to really compete and win in agility it is recommended you spay or nueter there are over twice as many fixed dogs in agility that qualify than those intact. That is not a valid reason to leave you dog intact. I am sorry but a pet quality animal should be nuetered to prevent testicular cancer prostrate cancer and many other reproductive disorders that cannot effect a nuetered or spayed animal. What your friend did is entirely irrelevant to this discussion!!!! This is you we are talking about and if you do decide to breed this dog did you know his parents are not AKC registered? I have checked the stud book records they are not listed if the litter was registered they would be listed the number you gave us was only a DNA number not a registration number any dog can be DNA'd not just any dog can be registered they had to have two parents both registered so think twice.

[Ickle]

[size=6][b]wow[/b][/size] ladies
I have been a sheltie breeder for over 27 years and if I was a novice would be very worried about breeding after the problems you have laid out for this lady, but of course you are correct in all you say and I hope she will have taken in your good advice and will not breed from this dog,
Ickle