GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 I was reading The United Kennel Club Breed Standard for the APBT and it said " The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremly friendly, even with strangers" 8) I'm happy to hear that!!! Now I can tell you all that every dog is diffrent let alone there breed. I agree but I dont. Pitbulls are very loving but if they want to attack becuase they feel threatened I believe they would be good gaurd dogs but they are still better pets personally..... I just want to know everyones opinion!!! :) Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 I agree 100%! Its good to hear some people not looking down on the breed!! :D Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 4, 2002 Author Posted June 4, 2002 Beagle I have liked you from the start. Your a good kid! :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 :D , i know for a fact that pitbulls make awesome guard dogs ...but they should not be used for it because they have an inherent trait that no ther canid has..and that is gameness. pitbulls are bred for many reasons..but guarding was "never" one ..they are a fighting breed. which means they make awesome pets..because they are game..now since this is a different board i suggest you research the word game...and another thing i would not take any advice from the UKC when dealing with pitbulls. they are not the premier registry for the pitbull. besides people in the UKC are breeding for companionship,temperament, and confirmation. so how would they know. they are not breeding their dogs for guard duty....get yourself a german sheppard......just my opinion but i have several pitbulls and none of them are "guard " dogs.. but all of them ARE protective..hope i helped..... Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 4, 2002 Author Posted June 4, 2002 you helped!! I saw it and wanted to post it! :D I think it's great to see more people saying they are good with starangers!! I dunno I had to post it! Quote
Shannon_C Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 [quote name='GizmoRedNosePit']I was reading The United Kennel Club Breed Standard for the APBT and it said " The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremly friendly, even with strangers" 8) I'm happy to hear that!!! Now I can tell you all that every dog is diffrent let alone there breed. I agree but I dont. Pitbulls are very loving but if they want to attack becuase they feel threatened I believe they would be good gaurd dogs but they are still better pets personally..... I just want to know everyones opinion!!! :)[/quote] Gizmo. I agree with you 100% about APBT, i can immagine them being so gentle and loving (in the right hands of course)....any breed i would say are not guard dogs but protectors but if there was a time when they needed to be, i know for sure that they would do there best to defend there family and property...as said before dogs are what you make them..which is to be a healthy and happy loving pet to its family, if that is used then you have a protector for life! Quote
Aroura Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 [quote name='GizmoRedNosePit']I was reading The United Kennel Club Breed Standard for the APBT and it said " The APBT is not the best choice for a guard dog since they are extremly friendly, even with strangers" 8) I'm happy to hear that!!![/quote] Yes, it's nice to hear that it says that, and it is true for dogs bred to conform to the ukc breed standards. Well bred dogs of any breed have good temprements and for any dog to be entered in a show it MUST have a good temprement, otherwise it will be disqualified before it even enters the ring! The problem with Pits is the backyard breeder, that breed them not for show, but for guard dogs!!! Any breed that has been bred for several generations to be agressive is more likely to be agressive than one bred for a stable, friendly temprement. Pits, as a breed have been abused for many, many generations, bred for agression by so many irrisponsible breeders. I'm sure if people decided that wanted to turn Labradores into guard dogs and abused the breed as much as the Pit has been abused, a few generations and Labs would be listed as 'dangerous dogs'. Its not a case of the breed, its simply a matter of the breeding. Any breed, well bred, will be a great dog, capable of many great things, if it is brought up properly. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 4, 2002 Posted June 4, 2002 [quote name='GizmoRedNosePit']Beagle I have liked you from the start. Your a good kid! :D[/quote] well thank you!! but I have to say I'm just saying what is true!! :D Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 5, 2002 Author Posted June 5, 2002 well at least its the truth and not a lie!! talk to you later :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 5, 2002 Posted June 5, 2002 :D Thanks Sasha Girl!! I love your new pic. she is SOOOOOO cute! I kinda wish gizmo was that small again!! Quote
Aroura Posted June 5, 2002 Posted June 5, 2002 Sashagirl, that pic is sooo cute!!!! Just thought I'd put my 2 cents worth in 8) Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 6, 2002 Posted June 6, 2002 I have never personally owned a pit bull, but I have met a lot of them... and so far I have NEVER seen one that was agressive towards people! I once worked in a vet where a 8 month old pup was brought in of a local res, he was the sorriest (not messed up just really sorry) little boy I ever saw. He had bites all over him because he was attacked by the local pack. This puppy defended himself agenst 6 adult dogs and even took one down before they could break it up.... and other then a few bite marks he looked pretty good! I tried to keep in the kennel in the basment, that's where all the dogs were kept, but he just kept howling, and if you could see those sad eyes saying "I didn't mean to do what ever it was I did PLEASE let me out!!!???" Well needless to say he spent the whole day under my desk licking my shoe! It's hard not to fall in love with something like that! Quote
stiff Posted June 7, 2002 Posted June 7, 2002 I know for sure they are friendly with strangers, my 3 year old pit escaped from my backyard once and a guy took it home with him, It was only after I posted pictures of him that I got him back and he never harmed anyone. Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 8, 2002 Author Posted June 8, 2002 VERY COOL!! That made my dad Newfiemom!! For a nine year old to print that and help the world relize that the American Pitbull is not a threat and as usless as a mosquito made my day!!! :P :D :P Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 8, 2002 Posted June 8, 2002 I think rotwielers are. They are great family dogs when socialized and trianed and natural protectors.They have alot of the quolities. :D Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 9, 2002 Posted June 9, 2002 Most awesome guard dog is the Fila Brasileiro a dog which was bred to hate and distrust strangers. [url]http://www.dt.fee.unicamp.br/~amaury/filanet.html[/url] Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 10, 2002 Posted June 10, 2002 Yes they can be good guard dogs, although not the BEST breed of dog to be one. Originally they were bred because of their unique ability to be very friendly to people. Along with their strength, that was their most endearing quality. Will they protect you? Without a doubt. You are their master, they love you and they will lay down their life for you. But again, this is the kind of dog who would see a stranger being mugged and chase down the robber. By nature, unless altered by a stupid breeder who thinks it's a good idea to make them aggressive to humans, Pit Bulls are very easy-going around people. Some might see this as a weakness, but it is their true strength. Pit Bulls have a great amount of determination and will stop are hardly anything to protect people. In fact, they have great determination about all things and go great distances to acheive great things. I have no doubt that your Pit Bull will serve you well. Not only will they protect you, but they will love on ya and give you lots of joy and laughter in your life. Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 10, 2002 Author Posted June 10, 2002 Not only will they protect you, but they will love on ya and give you lots of joy and laughter in your life. I agree but dont you think any dog would be a good gaurd dog...All dogs love their owners (except abused ones) and they all will give their life for us!! But the question I have would we take our lives for our dogs?? They would why wouldn't we..... Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 11, 2002 Posted June 11, 2002 I think that all breeds of dogs if loved and well trained can be good guardians of their house and their family. If you're talking about using them to guard a warehouse or some other such similar facility, then the Pit Bull is not your best bet. In these cases you would be better of choosing a German Shepherd or a Doberman Pinscher (sp?). I have so completely fallen in love with this breed of dog within the past five months of having been around them all the time. I've immersed myself in the history of their breed and doing my best, as one person, to demand changes in the ways people think about these wonderful dogs. I personally think that if they want to rid this country of dangerous Pit Bulls, they need to start forcing the jerks who breed them to serve HARD jail time. In essence, by training Pit Bulls to be aggressive to humans, they are creating lethal weapons and should be punished according to that kind of crime. Instead of limiting the activities of the breed itself, force breeders to take into account how many laws they will be breaking by breeding dangerous dogs. I think there should be laws saying that if the dog does the crime, the owner does the time. Granted, if the person or people who were attacked were posing a threat to the dog or its owner, then the blame lies on them, not the dog and not the owner. A Pit Bull that is trained right will not EVER attack a human unless it perceives an honest threat. And Pit Bulls have an uncanny knack for knowing the difference between a real threat and someone who is just being rambunctious. I live in Maryland and in one county here they have laws that state that a Pit Bull born after Feb of 1997 is illegal and must either be removed from the county or it will be destroyed. It also states that Pit Bulls aren't allowed to run free in a fenced in yard. If they aren't on a leash the owner faces a $1000 fine. I think that is TOTALLY absurd. I get hot just thinking about how stupid that is. Anyway, I think you have yourself a wonderful dog and if you continue with that breed, you will never have to worry about your safety or the safety of those you love. Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 12, 2002 Posted June 12, 2002 What really kills me is that most lawmakers or animal control authorities don't know the true lengths that these jerks go to in order to make them human aggressive. They kick them in the genitalia, they put collars on them that have spikes on the inside, they whip them, they leave them alone in cages that don't get cleaned and so the dog is forced to lie around in their own waste, they feed them irregularly and when they do feed them it's usually small animals. If they did know this and truly understood this, they would quit branding the breed as vicious and instead of punishing the dog, they would start locking up these jerks for committing animal abuse. And once every last one of these bozos is in jail or has decided it's not worth the money on licenses, or paying fines for getting caught, only then will we finally be rid of "viscious man-eating pit bulls". It's so completely ironic to put those words together since one of the basic traits of the breed is to be opposed to being aggressive to humans. A true specimen of the breed just wouldn't be that way unless they were trained to be. When will people finally get this through their skulls? If Pit Bulls were naturally aggressive to people...why in THE HECK would the Little Rascals have been running around with one named Petey for many years? I guess some folks just have weak minds and will believe media hype over proven fact anyday of the week. And all I can say to this is just ... UGH UGH UGH Quote
Guest Anonymous Posted June 17, 2002 Posted June 17, 2002 almost any dog will make a good guard dog for the simple fact that they can sense when something is wrong...my dog only barks when something funny is going on Quote
GizmoRedNosePit Posted June 20, 2002 Author Posted June 20, 2002 True any and every dog should do that...but still should the APBT be a guard dog at like a junk yard filled with cars?? I think that this breed would eat the tires right off the car!! LOL :D This breed personally is better pet and show dog..... :D Quote
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