CincoandDahlilasgirl

well based on from what is being said in this thread as well as what I've heard on other threads I think that if in the right hands then I prong would be excellent but for a person who hasn't had experiance with training and wants to get some stuff down b4 obidience or does the training themselves then it probably be best have atleast some1 check to make sure it's hooked up right.

[quote name='ShatteringGlass'][quote name='TDG'][quote name='ShatteringGlass']use a training collar (choke, pinch, etc) high on the dog's neck, right behind the ear's, like a show dog :D With most dogs, you'll find you'll have better control with the collar up high on the neck.[/quote] i'd be very careful giving such "advice" to someone who has never been instructed by someone who knows what they are doing when it comes to choke and pinch collars. it's easy to do a lot of damage that way, especially if someone is using a pinch (prong) collar, which should absolutely [b]never[/b] be put up "high on the neck behind the ears". that area is not well protected at all and the larynx can get damaged. why jerk around a dog anyway? they are smart and can be taught without yanking and pulling. if the original poster has a desire to properly train the dog, not just to walk nicely on a leash without pulling, buy a good book on clicker training and a clicker. it's great.[/quote] I'm sorry, I thought she allready knew the basics, and how to use training collars, since she said that the dog has allready learned the basics and knows how to heal. I assumed she was just looking for extra tips. I've walked many large dogs on leads, and I always put the collar up high on the dogs neck. There's no need to jerk on the collar, because most dogs won't even pull when the collar is that high, including my dog. I walk my dog on a nylon choke, just because she can't slip out of it, like she may with a normal buckle collar. If I put the nylon choke in the middle of or at the base of the neck, she will pull. Now, when I put the nylon choke up high on her neck, she doesn't even attempt to pull, she'll walk foward and feel the pressure, and she automatically eases up. just giving ideas/advice from my own experience and what has worked for me.[/quote] Thats the kind of collar Cinco has but his has a snap to remove it incase we ever get a new collar or for when he gets a bath(I keep it on though so I can control him in the tub)

and Cinco get confused with being a dalmation mix xuz of the spots on his paws

[quote name='kendalyn']There are lots of ways to train a dog and there are good things and bad things about all of them. CincoandDahlilasgirl, if you want to use a corrective collar, there is nothing wrong with it, but you do need to learn how to use it correctly. And you can probably tell that there is not exactly a concensus on the right way to use them. :lol: But I'm not exactly sure what you want him to do. Didn't you say here that he knows how to heel? [quote name='CincoandDahlilasgirl']He's already learn'd the basics such as "heal"[/quote] So can't you just have him heel when you want him to walk nicely?[/quote] He know's it but he don't know it. My dads been getting him to learn heal but his schedual latly has been messed up and he thinks can be better at the walking part since i crate trained him and got him to master "crate" Like I said b4 I already got a not prong leash.

We're geting a clicker (or atleast i think we are) the next time we goto petco. It's not a matter of getting there it's more of a matter talking to my parents saying he'll learn faster (although he does seem to catch on quickly) with 1 but it's they're money I'm just he daughter that knows how to train him and has more patience i guess lol. Thankz for the replys. BTW don't get the wrong idea about the collar i told u about cuz it's not a choker it's an alternitave to the choker and only does the choker stuff when the dog pulls and he can't slip out of it like he could ur basic everyday chain collar.

Dahlila went through this as a pup and she grew out of it with in a few months

[quote name='ShatteringGlass']use a training collar (choke, pinch, etc) high on the dog's neck, right behind the ear's, like a show dog :D With most dogs, you'll find you'll have better control with the collar up high on the neck.[/quote] Thankz i got a fabric choker from the hs when he got him a few months ago(it's a fairly new collar that elmbrook got free testers for)

I'm not the 1 who buys the food for the dogs so i just feed them hat dog food they have

[quote name='AllAmericanPUP'][quote name='CincoandDahlilasgirl']I feed 2 different types(depending on the store we goto) The Ol' Roy (Yes my dogs like it) and Purina (Yes my dogs like that 2) With meat or something mixed in sometimes. We can't give Dahlila canned food otherwise she gets the runs and we arn't gonna feed it to 1 dog and not the other.[/quote] both of those foods suck, no offense. i'm sure the dogs like it, but it's not good for them. read the ingredients on that crap, it's all fillers and chemicals, wich will cause them to get cancer when they are older...[/quote] Well if the stores we get our dog food at carried those foods and if they sold it at reasonable prices then we would and our nearest petco is like an hour to an hour and 45 min away so we get the food from there when we get a few hours during the day. We don't have a petsmart and we've tried the stuff from petworld outlet warehouse and the dogs never touched it. We've also switched them to a new brand today something like nutural balance (private company) I mean aleast they're being fed I mean I'm sure theres people who feed there dogs once a week or less. We also mix in stuff with there meals.

i know

[quote name='DivineOblivion19'][color=indigo]For Divina I've gotten: *Pekingese :o *Mini Pit Bull *Mini Boxer *Pug *Rat Terrier For Cori, people usually don't know. I usually gets asked what kind of dog she is or what kind or mutt she is. It is rare someone actually knows what she is and people don't usually try to guess.[/color] :lol:[/quote] some people...my friend has dog thats the exact breed as divina so thats how i know what divina is. Cori I know has corgi in her

[color=yellow][size=6]Happy 3rd bday![/size][/color]

my friend calls cinco a britney spaniel cuz she has 1.

people confuse dahlila withe lahso

I found this online [url]http://familypoet.com/poem.cmdl?poemid=917[/url] [quote]Hero by R. Wayne Edwards October 2003 He was the first to smell the smoke, It was the middle of the night, And he was instantly awake For surely something wasn’t right. He jumped and ran from room to room, At each one, shouting the alarm. His only thought his family, That none of them should suffer harm. He stayed inside the burning house ‘Til everyone was safe outside. And that’s why only he would hear When little baby Billy cried. When the family had all gathered Just to check on one another, Only then had they discovered They were missing baby brother. He rushed into the baby’s room And grabbed Billy's pajama foot. He drug him low across the floor Through choking smoke and fire and soot. The heat had caught his hair afire And set his struggling lungs aflame But he could hear the frantic call Of little baby Billy’s name. His dying thoughts were happy ones, His loving family had been spared. That he was faithful ‘til the end Was all in life for which he cared. “No life was lost," the fire chief wrote, In filling out his daily log, “Unless you count the family pet, The children’s big old mongrel dog.

Some people are just so cruel! I found this on a website. [quote] A dog sits waiting in the hot summer sun, Too faithful to leave, too frightened to run. He s been there for days, with nothing to do But sit by the road, waiting for you. He can't understand why you left him that day. He thought you and he were stopping to play. He's sure you'll come back and that's why he stays. How long will he suffer, how many more days? His legs have grown weak, his throat's parched and dry. He's sick now from hunger and falls with a sigh. He lays down his head and closes his eyes. If you could just see how a waiting dog dies. [/quote] [url]http://familypoet.com/poem.cmdl?poemid=59[/url]

I found a pic of my boy! Me and Blacky the so called "vicous" lab/pitbull don't he look vicous in the pic? :lol: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/Blacky.jpg[/img] Just to compare heres a petfinder.com lab/pitbull mix [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/pitbull.jpg[/img] [/img]

[quote name='kendalyn'][quote name='AllAmeicanPUP']i mean really, are people THAT worried about what someone calls their fricken dog?[/quote] It kind of sounds like you are: [quote name='AllAmericanPUP']i think mutt or mongrel is degrading..dont know why..but I do.. [/quote] [quote name='AllAmericanPUP']there is nothing wrong with calling a dog a shepherd/husky mix or what the heck ever.[/quote] Except that in most cases it probably isn't accurate. Usually that would only describe some characteristics of what the dog looks like. In the average mutt there are probably lots more breeds mixed in. I think it's important to remember that so people know they're not getting a Shephard/Husky mix, they're getting a totally unique mix of various breeds.[/quote] But most mixes have breeds in them that stand out. For instance... We know Dahlila has shihtzu/jackrussel in her color is jack russel and she's got the fur of a shihtzu [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/The%20dogs/Dahlilainmommysroom.jpg[/img] Cinco we know is a springer/hound/possible lab cuz his color supports springer his body supports hound and ears support lab [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/The%20dogs/elegantCinco.jpg[/img]

[quote name='Baileysmom']we have lost way too many this past year :cry: last february we had to put my sons pom to sleep he was aging fast, had no teeth, was blind, deaf and then suddenly over the course of 2 days became paralyzed :( then in the fall we lost 3 foster puppies and their mom to parvo :cry:[/quote] Idk if this is related but I've been around a distemper+ dog but we didn't have him long after that cuz he snapped at everyone and the HS we got him from failed to mention that he wasn't socialized and he wasn't good with kids!

[quote name='Kat']I would say he would be a classic springer x lab with possibly a bit of border collie thrown in :wink:[/quote] Well for sure we know he's a springer/hound and now I'm convinced he's got lab somewhere in there.

aww thanks guys heres a link to a post that tells about what happened to him. It's on a pitbullforum [url]http://www.game-dog.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27141#post27141[/url] :roll:

[quote name='Kat']What do you mean when you say "nicely"? If you want obedience style heelwork then the best way is to hold the lead in your right hand, keep Cinco on the left always and use food just above his nose to show him where the correct heel position is. You can help him by always stepping off on your left foot. Dogs judge by body language and feet/head/shoulders position dictate the position of a dog.[/quote] What I mean is to slowely get him to walk with out pulling cuz when I take him to a friends house or when they come over they always walk Dahlila cuz I'm afraid Cinco will pull the leash right out of their hand since they either have puppies or older dogs that don't pull and theres a few friends that'd make me run and catch him while they sit back and watch. So what u said is probably what I mean. But 1 more question does matter if I'm right handed?

ok well if u can't already tell I'm not the best when it comes topoms

Ok I was looking on petfinder like I often do when I'm bored and now I'm convinced that Cinco has at least a small percentage of lab in him cuz I saw a pic of spaniel/lab mix and it kinda has Cinco's face and maybe it's just me but Cimco's ears look like a lab ears heres the link. [url]http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=3891175&adTarget=468doggeneral&SessionID=42043b0325239876-app3&display=&preview=1&row=125&tmpl=&stat=[/url] and heres Cinco [URL=http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/The%20dogs/elegantCinco.jpg][img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/shootingstar167/The%20dogs/th_elegantCinco.jpg[/img][/URL]

Ok I know this ain't my boy Blacky from when I was a child but it's his exact mix and what he looked like. [url]http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=3981670&adTarget=468doggeneral&SessionID=42043b0325239876-app3&display=&preview=1&row=75&tmpl=&stat=[/url]