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Some dogs will salivate when they are in pain. I'm no vet though, I'd take him in first thing in the morning. (Uncoated, plain aspirin will not cause a reaction in the vast majority of dogs though.)

Thanks for the help Irena, I will definately tell her about him and see what can be done. Rowie - You're right the general area would be better. This woman did send to some southeastern state for her dog so presumably she did this because she did some research on lines etc but I don't see he making use of a distant mentor. FDF - I sooooo hope this woman isn't as bad as Paris but from the way my friend made her out you might be right. I only hope that by looking at Petfinder and seeing how many dogs are on there she might change her mind. Or, failing that, if she talks to a good breeder she will either realize how hard it is or at the very least learn to do it right.

Miniature Pinscher sorry.

A friend of a friend wants to breed minpins. She is a doggy fashion accessory person :roll: so naturally I want to discourage her or at the very very least ensure she does it right. She is one of those people who shutdown when someone tells them anything they don't want to hear. My best option at this point is to show her petfinder and hook her up with some one REALLY ethical as a mentor - which would discourage any sane person or at least show them how to do it right. So anyone know any reputable MinPin Breeder in the SW Ontario Area or an extremely ethical breeder of any smaller breed in the same area??

As for napping on the bed: I really think it depends on the dog. My boys sleep on the bed sometimes, sometimes they choose to sleep on their bed or the cool floor. I haven't noticed any extra pushiness and I can always tell them to get off any bed or peice of furniture and they comply instantly. In fact if a person enters the room and heads toward a chair the dog is on, they get off without being asked. Now if I felt my dog needed demoting sure I would start with the bed etc. I just don't think that we can say that no dog should be allowed on any bed or furniture anytime. Star, however, sounds like she could benefit from NILIF.

I'm so glad your son is OK. I haven't any advice to add but you know what your doing and I'm sure you'll make the best decision possible. Take care.

Well it is important to provide options people can afford and if the pup didn't end up being to dehydrated the vet might have opted for home care due to stress?

If its parvo there is not really anything you can do at home. Check with local humane societies and animal groups a rare few will forward vet care, they may want collaterol though. Keep in mind that the law in many places states you are legally required to provide needed vet care to your pet or surrender it were possible to some one or some group that can. I encourage you to do what is necassary, no matter how difficult to obtain the proper vet care. Having said this, I would encourage you to try to keep her hydrated. Try Pedialyte - it is a baby formulae thingy. You need something to keep electrolytes balanced, you can also try a small dose of pepto bismal prior to this to help keep it down. If your puppy has parvo and shows no signs of improvement within 4 days or so of the onset of symptoms it has a good chance of dying and that is with vet care. So don't play the wait and see game at home to long. The worms are secondary and you might be able to treat them with garlic or herbals IF your puppy were well. As it is not well garlic and herbals may just cause more vomitting wich is very bad at this point. Some antiviral or wellness/immune boosting herbals might help with the parvo if they could be kept down but they cost money too and if you aren't familiar with herbal remedies it could cost the same (or more) and your pup may day anyway so the vet is likely the better, more cost effective route.

I don't think we need to ban her, she's interesting in an unusual specimen sorta way. Also if we ban her she might go off thinking we weren't giving her a fair opportunity to express her "opinion" and complain to the admins. However she did ask to be deleted so I'd give it till the top of the hour and then delete her, should work fine.

Well she IS the ubermod, at least in her mind, might as well let her have a go at it.

You know, I've just stumbled across the coolest possible explanation: Maybe the reason people "can't" leave Dogo is because Dogo rocks sooooo much no one wants to, even inflexable, holier than though, know it alls who like to threaten to leave.

Sooooo you can't leave because K hasn't deleted your account? K! That is the coolest power! But wait, if you were leaving Kazy and NEVER coming back - how did you know your account wasn't deleted - oooooh spooky.

You're right, flirting is evil? Heaven forbid people have fun and interact in a more intimate manner than something like this: Poster 1 - "This is my puppy Rex, I brought him home at 4 weeks so we could bond better, isn't that great?" Poster 2 - "Yes that is great, Your dog is cute." Poster 3 - "Yes that is great, Your dog is cute." Poster 4 - "Yes that is great, Your dog is cute." Poster 2 - "Yes that is great, Your dog is cute, oh wait did I already say that?" Poster 5 - "Yes your dog is cute. Just a question though, how did you end up taking a dog home at 4 weeks, isn't that a bit early?" [color=red]THREAD LOCKED BY ADMIN[/color] Are you going away yet? Or are you staying, we still need the money.

[quote]Well, at least the admin there is being admin and being adult on toip of it[/quote] You're right coming here and having a fit and claiming that Dogo is a cult and won't LET people leave is being adult. :roll: BTW Have you left yet? Oh wait I'm to be telling her she can't leave aren't I, I get sooooo confused. Edited for spelling, at least the ones I caught.

I thought you were leaving? I mean if you want to stay that's fine, I'd even welcome it, although I would suggest that you change your tone from "you should run your board as I see fit because I'm the dominatrix of boards and now best" to something more on the lines of "hey I have an idea, what do you think about changing (fill in blank) to be more like this (fill in blank) because (polite well thought out reason that takes into account the past expressed desires of the majority of the board.) It would just be more likely to get you somewhere. Of course if your goal is just to stir up crap then proceeding as you have been will work well. :lol:

You see what I was saying about hyprocritical. Has anyone watched Coupling and if so do you know what the term "an unflushable" means?

Um, did anyone else notice that Kazy has a real flare for the hypocritical. I mean she tells us all how we are rude and mean and cross lines she wouldn't cross and how we stick our noses in things that are none of our business and then she does all of those things, weird. Anyway, if you don't want to stay that's your business. :niewiem: You want to go around trash talking Dogo that's your business too I guess, seems a trifle childish to me but :niewiem: . I'm sure Dogo will continue on, as it has for years, despite these occasional little tantrums from somewhat inflexable people who think they can shape everything to fit what they see as "right." :Rose:

Soooo let me get this straight, we can suggest someone try another dog food if their dog has hotspots but if a person is, from what we can tell, in jepordy or potentially placing an animal in jepordy we shouldn't say anything? Riiiiiight. I don't think so, suggesting someone go for counseling isn't offensive, unless suggesting someone go to emerg for a gunshot wound is. Mental health is really important and nothing to be ashamed of. Refusing to talk about counseling and mental health contributes to an unwarrented stigma attatched to it and does a disservice to the proffession and the people who experience mental health issues from stress to bipolar disorder. As for "none of our business." People express their opinions on boards, people respond. If something is "none of our business" than it aught not be posted here. And if by "none of our busness" you mean we should express our opinions about somethings and not others...well you may have to accept that different people have different opinions on where that line is. It is quite possible that if we went with the most conservative view of what is "none of anyone's business" we would have NOTHING to post here, so why be here?

Thanks Babs. No worries. [size=2]And I for one would be happy to have you and the Ripley's crew drop in on us at Dogo from time to time. After all we all care about the dogs.[/size] :wink: :D

Well the folks on that board are entitled to think of me as an armchair shrink (or however they put it) just like I'm entitled to think of them as enablers. :lol: Anyway, while I'm armchair shrinkaging, I'd like to point out that the chances of changing DALs behaviour were slim even before the enabling but I think it is irresponsible to not say anything. I'm proud to be part of Dogo and of all of us for being able to take a stand. I'm also proud of those who were able to express themselves in a restrained manner despite their anger (obviously some people ignored those posts) and I'm proud of those who were able to admit they were wrong and apologise when they crossed the line (this also seems to have been missed by some people.) Edited to add: It's not entirely fair of me to lump everyone over there as enablers, I am exagerating for effect. Some of them seemed quite nice and some were concerned as well and voiced their concerns well.

[quote]alot of us have dogs and we do have to plan and one of the things they say is you need a care plan for your animal.[/quote] If you have a plan and you can do it then like I said, dogs are great companions and I see no reason why you aught not have them. I do think folks have some good points in DAL's case though.

Nice post Doberfanatic.

I could be wrong but ... The situations DAL has presented to us over the years and her way of expressing herself lead me to believe she lacks a strong sense of self. She is Justin's wife, she is an army wife, she is the owner of a deaf dog, she tragically has to rehome a dog or two - these are dramtic ROLES, situations etc and they allow her to be something special without being NAOMI, whomever that may be. She needs the crisis and the dramatism and the big changes and our attention (like a junky) because she isn't content within herself, she doesn't have a purpose or goal or a regular role for herself as just Naomi. Maybe I'm wrong or speaking out of turn but I've said it before and I'll say it again: You need to spend some time with yourself and honestly decide who you are, who you want to be and what you want out of life. Then you need a workable plan and then, and this is the important part, you need to take small reasonable steps to get there. You can't keep flitting from crises to dramatic scenarios to pretty little amusments - you won't be happy. Sadly it may be, that there are dogs that are going to be distressed in the process but hopefully whatever therapy she is getting will help her. tx2478 wrote: [quote]are you guys saying that we shouldnt have dogs at all[/quote] It may be unpopular but I have to say: If you need protection get an alarm system. If you want companionship a dog is a great option if you are make you very best effort to be sure you will be able to continue to provide for the animals needs for its lifetime. Realistically I don't see how a single military person can reasonably expect to be able to have a dog or cat. They can be deployed or have to move very often. Maybe if their extended family has a pre-existing arrangement to care for their pet when needed. As for famalies with one member in military service - I think it is quite reasonable for them to manage a pet or two but it must take more work and more planning and more dedication than for famillies that don't have to be concerned with deployment and moving bases. They just have to be aware and prepared for it.

I lost the dogs toothbrush - don't ask me how. :roll: In just a couple days Zaphod's breath smells like garbage left to sit in the sun and I swear I can see the difference in his teeth. I do not understand how his mouth can smell like that, it's unreal, he eats the same thing Kavik does. Anyway the upshot is that brushing really really really really really works. Going to buy new toothbrush today.

She might be reading through the posts before replying, which would make sense.