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Canis erectus

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  1. Canis erectus

    Nightmare day today (long post)

    So I humped it back home after a brief stop at the new house so that my stray could get a drink of water from the toilet. it was sometime after 3:30 when I got back to the house. I called Hannah's cell phone to have her pick me upand we'd go scour the other neighborhood, but she said she already had them and was driving around looking for me. Now hang on with me here because things are getting stranger. Here's the story Hannah told me: After dropping off the sander she came home to pick up the spare leash and then went to all of the immediate neighbors' to ask if they saw or heard anything. She then drove around for awhile (nobody she talked to saw them either) and then came back to the house to call the police. Cops said they had a report from someone who picked up two dogs and told her to check the pound because that's where the woman said she was taking them. Hannah got to the pound at about 3:00, just as the woman was trying to coax China out of her car so she could put her in a holding pen. This woman (who it turns out happens to be a frequent client at the clinic I work at) says that she came home at 1:00 and saw her next door neighbors trying to round up China (who would have none of that) while they had Zoey tied up in their yard. The woman knew something was wrong with that situation, and being her blessedly nosey self, sje atarted in on her neighbors trying to find out what was really going on. At one point they said that they found the girls running stray and tried to take them to the vet but they were closed. The woman asked if they were going to call animal control, to which they replied that they wouldn't and the dogs would find their own way home. Yet they had Zoey tied up in their yard while at the same time trying to catch China. :-?
  2. I could be wrong, but I believe that in the US most hunt parties actually capture and then release the fox after the hunt is over. With regards to the thoughts that all "contact" canine sports are somehow inhumane, I disagree. This sentiment seems to paint the image that dogs are somehow forced into participating in something they have no desire to do. I think the real issue in this regard is not in the truest sense a real concern for the dogs' well being, but much more so an issue of personal ethics and moral standpoint. Just because you or I don't want to chase down a small furry animal and kill it with our bare hands, doesn't mean that our dogs shouldn't have the desire to. In our society cruelty to animals, or anything deemed as "helpless and at your mercy", is considered morally wrong (and most of these types of people tend to harbour serious mental deficiencies), and as such many of us impart this belief system to our animals. It seems like we often forget that dogs, by nature, are aggressive predatory animals, they find nothing wrong with fighting and killing other animals. While I can't promise that I know as a fact what any dog wants or doesn't want, I'm quite sure that most of them would (and do) gladly risk injury or death for the chance to take on anything from a squirril to mountain lion. With the exception of pit fighting, in which the animals can't hope to escape eachother if they wanted to, you can't make a dog hunt another animal. They either have the drive, or gameness, to do so, or they don't. Don't kid yourselves, the same behavioral traits that make dogs into good pets are the same ones that make them effective predators. I can tell you that Zoey would love nothing more than to be coursed in open field trials after rabbits, it's part of her nature, and trust me she doesn't have the same vigor when going after an inanimate object. If I had the time and freedom to travel I would love to do game coursing with her (even though I don't eat rabbit), it would be something that she loves to do, So is that considered inhumane? Humans that participate in dangerous sports such as football, boxing, or rock-climbing, do so only out of personal desire, but they similarly risk their well being to do something they love. So just because atheletes often suffer serious and painful injuries (often at the hands of other atheletes), does that mean that such sports are inhumane and should be banned? Also in regards to hunting, this is one of the few places where dogs still have a legitimate working role. Some animals have to have their populations kept in check, albeit this is due to human stupidity, but it still needs to be done as a result. In the US the most notable dangerous animals that a dog would hunt would be bears, boars, and (rarely) mountain lions, which often need to be destroyed due to environmental or safety factors. Hounds are needed to track the game, and hold it in place (bay) until the hunter can arrive and dispatch it. I've seen wild pigs in action, and I've even had two of them come after me once, trust me when I say that if you were a boar hunter the chances would be good that you'd be ass-out when 400 lbs of true belief that you didn't know was there came after you through through the brush. Yeah, dogs get seriously injured and even killed baying dangerous animals, but they do it because they have a mind to. The only force in the world that will make a couple dogs confront a large angry predator is called free will. Calling these 'blood hunts' inhumane and banning them would rob hunters the chance to effectively catch thier game and rob dogs of something they enjoy. After my last post in this thread I've been trying to figure out excactly why I dislike dog fighting, and I think that it has primarily to do with what is commonly thought of as pit fighting today. And by that I mean the heartless thug dog fighters who see their Pitbulls almost as an inanimate disposable object, with no regard to the animal's wellfare at all. Often times the dogs involved in these situations have no choice other than to fight or to die, let alone that these animals are usually denied the proper social interaction that dogs require to be happy. Had I no prior knowedge of the malicious practices of the common criminal dog fighters I might not find myself in disagreement with what has been described in this thread as a responsible proper match between dogs. However, despising the thug-type pit fighting so much, I just can't make the jump to finding "responsible" dog matches acceptable, there is just too close of a connection. Also here's something to chew on. What if dog matches were arranged with muzzled dogs? I realize there there probably wouldn't be much point in it for those who would be interested in matching their dogs, but would some of you who who find fighting unacceptable be OK with muzzled "wrestling" matches (just assume that muzzles wouldn't get pulled off etc..)? Just something to throw out there and see what you think.
  3. Canis erectus

    Aggresive Labs!

    i don't feel sorry for the Lab owner a bit, sorry but that dumb turd-sucker deserves every lick of trouble and inconvienience those dogs cause him. Because it's his own damn fault any way you want to put it. He could have made sure he aquired dogs with parents who had sound temperments and conformation, and failing that he obviously didn't recognize a serious temperment issue and implement the proper training. Maybe the dogs were of sound parenting, but this guy failed horribly in basic training and socialization. Or he could have adopted the dogs who may have come from a bad environment and their aggresion isn't his fault, he still could have bought a couple of muzzles. Now, I'm not saying that it's unacceptable to have dog-aggressive dogs (nevermind the fact that these were Labs), these things happen sometimes, even to the best of dogs. But you do definately have to be in control of them, which this guy sounds like he doesn't have.
  4. Canis erectus

    What do you guys think?

    [quote name='AllAmericanPUP'] a cane corso looks much more like a pit bull than a bulldog does. either way you're going to have people calling your dog a pit bull because the JQ public is a bunch of morons :D and OMG look at this cutie..a bit far from you :lol: but he's gorgeous! [url]http://www.petfinder.com/pet.cgi?action=2&pet=3779014&adTarget=&SessionID=42f7757f05126bca-app1&display=&preview=1&row=0&tmpl=&stat=[/url][/quote] You think so? I guess that just shows how opinions differ. i think they look basically mastiff-ish, especially with uncropped ears. You're right though, that most uneducated people wouldn't be able able to tell the difference with either breed, I figured that someone who is a little less undeucated would be able to differentiate Corso from Pits.
  5. Canis erectus

    What do you guys think?

    [quote name='Lucky Chaos']I don't see any titles on the dogs, maybe they're just not listed. They say they do health testing, though checking the OFA database only one of their females is listed. None of the others have OFA scores on their pages either, whihc I would then assume means they arn't checked. I don't know, send them an email and ask why they don't have titles (aside from GCG's) or OFA scores?[/quote] Good point LC, I'll have to look further into that. Good thing I have plenty of time for research. I'm pretty sure hips and elbows are the only common problem with this breed (also cherry eye I think). I didn't note where they only give a year on OFA's, which would be pointless. Does OFA even accept a registry on dogs less than 2? I guess the answere is yes, but that would seem foolish on their part. Mayhaps why they don't have OFA scores posted.
  6. Canis erectus

    Fritz hurt himself

    Good luck with Fritz when you hit the vet tomorrow, I just hope it's not a cruciate tear.
  7. Sighthounds of all types are usually considered quite stupid. Not true of course, it's part of their character to know what they are all about and don't feel the need to be told what to do. Then there's the rumor that huskies belong and even prefer being outdoors all the time. I have yet to meet one that (given the chance) didn't like like being indoors just as much, if not moreso, as being outside. Irish Setters: I go with the stereotype with regards to americanized bloodlines. There may be some breeders working to restore the breed but for the most part americans had sacrificed the basic working fundementals of the breed in order to create a better show dog.
  8. Canis erectus

    Shadow scared me to death today.

    Phew, I would have immediately assumed the worse myself!
  9. Canis erectus

    When do you fed your dog?

    My girls have a pretty standard feeding scheduel, they usually eat sometime between 8-9 in the morning, and then again somewhere between 5-6 in the evening. Neither one of them are particularly big eaters and don't put up any kind of fuss if I'm running off scheduel. That are quite demanding when it comes to their daily dog treat at around midnight, if they don't get that right away after coming in from the last night's potty break, my house will turn into a howling temper tantrum. :roll:
  10. Canis erectus

    Where does your dog sleep at night

    China likes to mostly sleep alone at night. She'll sleep either next to the couch in the living room, or right in the middle of the hallway. Zoey likes to break up her nights into different places. She'll alway start out sleeping next to the bed, either next to my side or at the foot. Then at some point she moves off and will sleep out in the middle of the living room and then Alina's room (not neccessarily in that order), and then she's almost always sleeping on the couch when I get up in the morning.
  11. Canis erectus

    It's tough having smart dogs!

    Zoey's the smart one at my house, and sneaky to boot. Last week while I was at work Hannah said that she went out to do some yard work when at one point she went out through the gate to get the hose from the front of the house. When she came back through for some reason she swung the gate into place but didn't swing the latch down. Apparantly Zoey (who is always on the lookout to escape and run free) had noted that the gate latch didn't close and when Hannah let the dogs out Zoet charged strait for the gate instead of running to the back of the yard like they both always do. So yeah, Zoey got out, but luckily enough Hannah spotted a bunch of kids down the street and true to nature Zoey had found them and packed up with them.
  12. Canis erectus

    Do you feed your dog table scraps

    I never give my girls people food, at least not 'intentionally' anyway. Unless it's something greasy or otherwise bad for them they are allowed to scavange the floor beneath us, but only after we've left the spot we were eating at. Of course I can be a sloppy eater, but the picking are always best around Alina's high chair and I have to watch closely that they don't sneak in to grab something unhealthy. Actually now that I think about it it's kinda funny that I'll feed my little girl food that I wouldn't even let my dogs have. :D Every once in awhile I like to 'accidently' drop some plain pasta on the floor for the dogs to get, but I never give it to them directly. I'm happy that my girls aren't beggers and I prefer to keep it that way.
  13. Canis erectus

    Defuzzing Tennis Balls

    I don't do tennis balls anymore. It takes China all of 30 seconds to pop one and start manicly peeling and eating the fuzz off of them. Zoey tends to be more gentle with them and won't destroy an intact ball, but she does get ahold of China's broken tennis balls and proceeds to eat the rubber pieces. :-?
  14. Canis erectus

    hits the spot

    China's not so touchy feely, she loves to have her neck rubbed or behind her ears scratched though. She'll put up with having her back, stomache, rump, etc. scratched but it obviously makes her uncomfortable, strangers are not allowed to pet her anywhere but her head but we're starting to slowly get better about that. Oddly enough China does love being brushed out, doesn't matter where. Zoey loves to be scratched anywhere and any time. Her all time favorite is to have her thighs scratched, all the better if it's a really good friction scratch, fingernails also make it better. If you scratch her thighs while she's lying down, she'll turn over on her back, tuck her front legs in and throw her head straight outward, and then she stretches her rear legs straight out as far as she can stretch them.
  15. Canis erectus

    Free's in quarantine

    [quote name='JackieMaya']I'm with Lucky Chaos. Since you brought the coon in, shouldn't they be able to test it for rabies so that Free can go home?[/quote] I believe that rabies testing is too expensive for most animal control departments to do on a whim. They'd do it if there were a human involved, but for a dog quarantine is the simplest and most economical option. Courtnek, that's a bummer but I'm sure Free will be OK, aside from some temporary home-sickness. Racoons are nasty, they'll sometimes kill a dog much larger than themselves, if I had a gun I'd probably do the same. Seeing as how I don't have a gun, I would've sent the other dog out on it, which may not be popular with some of you, but my policy is that if one dog gets into a tangle it's chances are better if there are one or more dogs backing it up.
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