Elsastarr

:kciuki: Thanks, NoisyTiger~good point about the internet.

:bluepaw: :bluepaw: :usa :bluepaw: :bluepaw: I really love your boy! I like what you have to say about your "ridgie', too. I have been with the breed for a while but just last year had our first litter & started showing. If you would like to see our pedigree it's @ [url]www.rhodesian-ridgeback-pedigree.org[/url] Foundation~Ocala's Caleb of Auburn (good man) Mushana Elsa Starr (my love) We kept~Elsaspride Crwn Prince Zaire~"Zaire"....my Show male Elsa's Ladysmith Shazsa Lelou~"Ladysmith"...Jr Showmanship Look up my "introduction", it's a long story about our puppies~we really LOVE :iloveyou: our babies soooooooooo much! I look forward to talking to you, [email protected]

I guess it's just because I'm a very "Black or White" type person but it amazes me the way that most of us here feel very strongly about wrong breeding practices & yet, just because some of you "get to see cute babies", you would support a show you SAY you don't really like...and make no mistake watching is a form of support. But, I'm a very focus person about what I believe. I have never seen the show, I don't care for programs like that, I get to emotional ( the otter show would have KILLED me) so I can't say anything negative about it but I encourage those of you who don't like it to call the sponsors & AP. It can make a difference!!! Because as the old saying goes, not making a choice IS still making a choice~apathy is deadly! :lukdot:

:cry: Oh, I'm sooooooooooo sorry, I just got back to my computer & it was one of the first things I checked. Oh, bless you for the love & the saddness...it's really true, your heart just aches when you hear about someones baby. But, he is really having a great time & one day ya'll WILL be together, again, NEVER TO PART! Our deep love to you & your family, you'll be in our prayers as time goes on~ :bluepaw: ~Elsastarr & Family

Mei-Mei is SOOOOOOO RIGHT!!!! What a combination. And what is up w/ the mother? I would get on the computer & find out everything possible about your breeds & then I would contact someone who has had them for a long time & be ready to learn!!! With emailing now it is easy to have the outreach for education you need. You can't know too much about your baby. Somedays I've spent hours & hours learning & then start again the next day. Just keep asking questions until you feel comfortable. Bestest Wishes :infinity:

Meehs, those of us against the "poo's" were only against them as a fad or money making venture. That's why in my first post I asked for them to give reasons & what kind of info they have on the breeder. Is the breeder responsible. See, what I mean. Not, the making of a new breed for profit or ego only. In the acticle, there were REAL reasons presented. See the different .... 1) for health/temperment betterment of the species or gene pool (Good or Con-Poo) or 2) as a fad, chic or moneymaking venture, a impluse buy type attitude (Bad or Pro-Poo) is what I have meant all along, which I think, maybe you agree w/..... in a word~RESPONSIBLE~ What ya think? :angel: PS For Goodnes Sake~Ridgies haven't been around here very long & you all ready have to be careful of the gene pool, people that have more ancient breeds like Pharoh Hounds I'm sure could really shead some light on this subject for us &, w/ these breeds there was & is still careful breeding & you would go back to one of the breeds already used for the new genes needed. You wouldn't just decide, what the heck, lets breed a lab & poodle together~Labradoodle-doo...LOL :roflt:

Cassie~I really enjoyed reading that, too. And, agree that you MUST be able to keep the health/temperment of the dog the foremost concern. I don't have a probably with "new genes". I think anyone could benefit from reading this info. And when it states>>>>"It appears selection for exotic is the goal, We are producing unhealthy freaks to satify human whims"<<<<makes the point that any breeding on whim or fad is WRONG! Which is what I think I understand us "con-poo" people are trying to say to the "pro-poo" people. You must be responsible. Because in the case of the "poo's"~ it's the rose & the name that they change & it doesn't smell sweet. Oh, Meehs~I'm not trying to be religious either. My life is based in Jesus, & I'm not going to discredit Him by acting ugly if I can help it...He"s perfect but I'm FAR from it. I know we are all just giving our opinions here & can agree to disagree if needed. I enjoy listening to others points of view & being able to express my on, too. I only asked so I would know where you where coming from. I wasn't trying to pick @ you. :buzi:

I wasn't trying to place purebreds in the place of being superior. I do know that what God created was PURE though. It wasn't a mix of anything & it HAD A REAL PURPOSE!!!!!!!!!!! And that if it or they are is still around in it's orinignal form then some people DO have a true purebred. It was really just a thing to go HHHUUMMMMMMMMMMM, over & not trying to start I big brew-haha. I know that some dogs to come from wolves but I also believe in the actual creation of dogs or a dog by God Himself. And, I can't image why anyone would have a probably w/ that line of reasoning. Unless you don't believe in Creationism. See, how the discussion goes....my point is still, there was a reason for dogs & I don't believe they are ALL man-made. Why would it bother you, if there is a true purebred? It doesn't deminish the love you can have, get or give to your mix, mutt or organized breed. Aren't we talking here about the reason for creations of new breeds, through, fads and improper money-hunger irresponsible breeders and people that aren't really thinking beyond the moment & cuteness of the name or look of the puppy. I wasn't trying to cloud the issue with God, just the re-statement that anything mankind is doing should have a soild reason & good foundation of fact before being set into motion~you know~THE BIG PICTURE not just your needs/wants or ego. ALL LIFE IS VALUABLE & SHOULD BE PROTECTED, BUT JUST BECAUSE "WE CAN" IS NOT A GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO CREATE MORE. Thank you for your response, I'm glad to have had the opportunity to explain further. :Fade-color :B-fly: :Fade-color

Along w/ the above mentioned, I use a "Natural Dental Wipe" w/ Baking Soda made by Premier Pet. My babies eat bones a lot but the outside of their Canines need a going over now & then & it works GREAT! :bigok: :dog:

This is a real eye opener. W/ my RR's they want to be right under me (actually, on top of me). The only time they are under me is as I'm in this chair @ the computer, then one of them is under me the others surround the desk. Now, when family visits they have to make sure everyone else knows how LOVED they are. That is my favorite thing about ridgies, but hounds are known for being very sweet. I thought companion/toy dogs were made for this, though...I thought they were all "lap babies" & I just figured that was from the beginning. Don't worry, I completely agree with the above post~you have a puppy & dogs are by nature lovin' & loyal so I'm sure your baby will realize what a great Mommie & Daddy you both are & appreciate you both. :laola:

You are so welcome, it's the very least I could do. I'll keep praying for you both, this is a terrible thing to have to go through, I know. :cry: Big Puppy Kisses & Praying Pawpaws

Just a couple of months ago, I thought we where going to lose our Daddy-Dog (Caleb) to Soft-Tissue Sacrcoma. I have a SUPER vet & he told me on a Friday & we had the weekend to pray, cry & research then the next week we were going to a cancer vet. Well, I started emailing, & I got a responds from the a special group one of the places they said check w/ was Auburn Univer. (well, of course, I thought). The Oncology Dept there has dual-heads so I wrote them of the situation & asked for any help or suggestions. Dr. Ralph Henderson emailed me back & ask for the phone # of my vet, I gave it to him & called my vet to let him pull the file & to be ready for the phone call. Later, that day the had a phone consult & then did some faxing of info. by that Thurs. Caleb was going back to our vet for a surg. they took the next layer of skin & sent it to the lab. When the results came back he HAD gotten it all that time. Because Dr. Henderson had told him JUST what to do. Thanks to that help we didn't have to go to a specialist, we had a specialist. It was SO heartbreaking, while he did have it & when we thought, should we face surgery/cemo or raditation....what is going to happen & how do we get through this. We had a lot of people praying for Caleb & us. I'll be praying for you, both. But, it can't hurt to seek Dr. Henderson's advice who know, he maybe able to help. [url]Http://www.vetmed.auburn.edu/~hendera/[/url] (that's info about him) (this is he's email, if you don't hear from him I would call Auburn & find out how to get in touch w/ him during the summer, but you'll probably be fine w/ just the email) [email][email protected][/email] I hope he can help. :angel:

Thanks, for the advice & you're right....who we take home is THE best baby there :angel: Keep me in mind, if you think of anything else.~Thank you, again.

:P WOW, I really appreciate, that, as with most of the people here~ I LOVE BABIES. And, I can handle just about anything is there is a REAL reason. Just give the facts, you know what I mean.

You know the REALLY BAD thing about this topic...I've sat here & in reading these pages & pages of post, I truly wonder why the people that are sooooooooooooo in favor of new breeds can't respoond to the questions asked in the spirit they were asked? I am a breeder, I only have had one litter so far, & as you can see from my intro. it took years to produce them. Because it wasn't for money but the betterment of the breed. I can honestly say, as WONDERFUL & BEAUTIFUL AS THESE BABIES ARE still we had most of them "fixed"...I can also say that if I am unable to find the right mating...one that will continue to enhance the breed I WILL LET MY PARTICULAR LINE "Elsaspride" DIE OUT. THAT IS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO WHEN SHE~MY ELSA~IS MY HEART! BUT, I LOVE RIDGIES MORE THAN I LOVE BREEDING [u]MY WAY! [/u] See, it doesn't mean I can't be a breeder if I don't find the proper match, it just means I have to start over w/ other lines. You also know this litter cost a lot of money (from my intro) & yet not one puppy was sold. WHEN YOU FIND BREEDERS THAT WILL ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS, THAT ARE WILLING TO PUT THE "BABIES" BEFORE PROFIT OR PERSONAL GAIN....WHEN YOU CAN COME ONLINE & BE OBJECTIVE ABOUT THE QUESTIONS, & RESPOND! THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY GET SOMEWHERE. Some of the things previously posted have been opinion & some facts, why can't you respond in a like fashion. Your opinion could be one thing & the facts the same or something else. If you feel strongly about something that's GREAT, you can tell from my "ALL CAPS" I feel strongly, too, but for goodness sake, have some REAL ANSWERS. It seems (& maybe you that want "new breeds" should re-read ALL the post, that generally the rest of us are trying to find out why?) Asking someone "why?" does mean you think they are wrong it hopefully means your smart enough to know you don't have all the answers? So, questions have been asked about these breeding programs, why, act offended. I tell you what, if someone wants one of my babies & they don't GRILL me, they need to learn that's WHAT THEY SHOULD DO!!! And to hide behind the statements, that's we are just being snobby about purebreds, is just that~hiding! Rosebud & other have asked some excellent questions, why do you dismiss them? It has also been brought up time & again, that~MUTT's are wonderful, that if you want a unique dog GO TO THE SHELTER or POUND it is likely you will find a one of a kind, or at least a one of a litter (no other litter would be quite like that ones babies). I'll even go so far to say that if a "breeder" does ALL THE RESEARCH/HEALTH TEST/TEMPERMENT, ETC & HAS FULL PLACEMENTS~DO IT! I say this because the expense & years of education WILL not be what these "breeders" really care about & since you can usually "follow the money" I doubt it's being done. Also, for you that are fighting for the"poo" breeds here, realize that REAL BREEDERS are caretakers FOR LIFE!!!! Be sure and add that to the list. Any baby that my kennel ever produces can be brought back to me @ any age & in any health condition. Do you get this from them? If so, if they do ALL that is required then you have my vote. So, are you going to ignore me, attack me or convince me? Because, you have my word, I'm willing to be completely open-minded. And, I'm willing to bet (so to speak) many of these posted replies have tried to be open-minded but you keep avoiding breeding practices questions & throw the "oh, ya'll only like purebreds" smokescreen up & "all of you have crosses" ~by the way, that's not true I can't give you a list of the breeds God Himself created, but He did, so some people actually do have PUREbreds. The bones back on your side of the fence~do you want to play? I'll be waiting. I love learning, teach me. Or is this NOT really about learning, sharing, knowledge & betterment of the dog world but just a place to pick a fight? :angel: