spirallollipop

Thanks I glad you guys understand. Thats one thing I hate, not being understood, and when I get heated I think I become more confusing. As far as the "I think it there is as much difference between two types of dog fighting as their is between UFC fighting and the old Roman Gladiator death matches. " :D I respectively disagree.

Talk about a headache. Some people work off shifts, you could complain about it.

I hope everyone understands that this was the first I mean first thread I read. And I got the first impression, wrongly, that dog fighting matching whatever was ok here. You know like if I went to a forum and they were justifing racism, I would think the forum was ok with racists cause they allow it. I see now that this is more of a free discussion place were things can be discussed good or bad. From my first post [quote name='spirallollipop']All I have heard to defend this matching are the same excuse fighters give for there dogs, it is sickening to read this, like it is accepted here. Please correct me if I am wrong. I mean I would like to think this is a forum I can be on without comprimising my morals.[/quote] I asked to be corrected and you guys did. I can see how you guys got offended, it is like I am bashing your forum. That I couldn't be apart of your forum without comprimising my morals. Which I find is not the case. Also cause I threw out the ban word. I was asking why it was able to be talked about being done, not to ban any person.

[quote name='Alan']spirallollipop > Your convictions are understood and shared by many here. The part which is throwing you off is the friendships that exist here. Most of us feel we can agree to disagree. I dont agree with a lot of people on a lot of different topics. However, I still think they are good people and I cant force my beliefs on them, nor they on me. To ban them wouldnt solve anything, nor would it to continualy belittle them. Lets just say, and this is only an example and nothing more, everyone here was dead set against dog fighting but 4 people. Would it not be best to befriend them, learn what makes them think it is ok and then hopefully teach them in a way that they learn on their own, why their line of thinking is wrong? On the other hand, lets just say, as an example only again, if you are the four people and you think that dog fighting is not what it is made out to be, would it not be best, to educate the others here, in a way that they learn themselves that there are more than one type of dog fighting and that they are not the same. The pont is that we learn from each others views. We try to be open minded enough to consider every possibility but we are still free to keep the same opinion that we started with. Often times, the "pubic opinion" is dead wrong. I remember at one time, the general public thought the earth was flat. One lone guy sat out to prove everyone wrong and thak God he did. Stay firm in your convictions and dont let anyone take that from you if you feel strongly about it but understand that others may feel they have just as many valid points to give them strong convictions from the other side of the fence. If you disagree, you dont have to hang out together, but you can still share the same neighborhood in peace. [/quote] I understand what your saying. I was actually completley unaware that there were people doing this that thought it was justified, I thought the people doing it knew they were wrong, but did it anyway. I don't know its like trying to convince me murder is right. Thats how strongly I feel about it. So I am just going to stay out of these discussions on here.

[quote name='__crazy_canine__']Ok Im not leaving this alone. I vote for a ban! Ill quote spirallollipop: [quote][quote]Is there anyway to report them?[/quote][color=red]No unfortulently I only visted that forum and found them talking about this, I'm not sure I can get that kind of info out of them now, cause I kinda made it apparent that what they are doing is still fighting and illegal.[/color][/quote] [quote][color=red]i couldn't beleive the stupidity.[/color][/quote] Then as soon as Abker and FDF say something you turn around what youve said. :roll: [quote][color=red]I am not attacking your forum. I am asking about matching. [/color][/quote] Oh really? Yeah thats why you called us stupid and want to turn us into the police for having an opinion. :-? :roll:[/quote] You can ban me if you like. I am not ever saying this forum in bad, I was always referrring to the people and their beliefs about dog fighting matching whatever you want to call it. Which if you(person in general) think dog fighting is ok then I do beleive that is stupid or stupidity. I never mentioned any names, the forum or anything. Like I said I came to this forum by recommendation. The very first thread I read is this one. I asked on the other forum what is matching. Again never saying any names or this forum. Nothing you quoted of me has me saying this forum is bad, there is a misunderstanding that I mean the people talking about matching/dog fighting not this forum when I say they or them. The person on the other forum asked me if there was any way I could report them, the person matching/fighting. I said no since I clearly made it apparent I don't support it.

I'd call and report her, in case it happens again. Lots of people around here let their dogs run loose too. Like I will try and take my dogs for a walk and a beagle or dashund, will come running across the street barking and yapping.

[quote name='K'][quote name='spirallollipop'] I was asking a honest question how is this topic able to be discussed. .[/quote] You will find that here we are able to discuss most things honestly and openly ...very different to over there and maybe you wont like it or find you cant deal with it...and thats ok too just choose not to post in the threads you dont like and post away in the ones you feel ok in... [quote name='spirallollipop'] I didn't figure it was aginst the rules to talk about the other forum .[/quote] We dont enforce the rules like a dictatorship here....we just know what works best and leaving other forums well alone is what works best for us....and generally whats safest for them :lol: ...seriously we have had a few people try to slag us off on other places thay think we wont find them like C@T forums and car forums...but we find them...and we set the other Board straight...[/quote] I can live with the open honestly thing, I'm all for free speeh. Yeah I guess I'll treat it like the tv, change the channel. Talking about it and saying you do it though a little different, but I am just going to leave it alone. I found through the past posts that lots of people tried to talk about it, but didn't get through. Don't think that little old me will. People have there mentalities and they are hard to change. I'll admit that I have mine, like this topic. Won't change my opionion on it, so I'll leave it at that. Just was surprised like I said, you know came over here to talk, find the first thread I read, I picked it cause I have pit bulls, thought it be something interesting. Just first impressions, which is not right to do, but I got pretty heated after reading it. Sorry if my first post was so flaming, I'm not usually like that :oops:

Thats nice, I like the idea of growing old with my dogs.

Is that the dog you speak of in your avatar, it looks chocalate. If not then what they said its may be normal changes.

Hello again, I am not a troll, yes fear dog fan directed me here, I have only posted on that forum, about 90 times, new to the whole forum thing anyway. I came here looking for another forum to post on, not to stir up trouble. Actually fear dog fan said very nice things about this forum, what I was posting was my observation about the very first thread I got on and read. I was posting my opinions is that wrong? And yes I posted on the other thread asking about matching, but I never said any names or forum. I am not bashing this forum, I am bashing dog fighting. I was asking a honest question how is this topic able to be discussed. Because matching is fighting, if you were caught matching dogs, you would be considered fighting. Which is illegal. I didn't figure it was aginst the rules to talk about the other forum ,since talking about matching or dog fighting whatever is ok. I searched this topic and found yes there is long discussions on it, apparently others have said things about this being discussed as well. I'm sorry if it seemed like I was just stirring up trouble, I just very much disagree with fighting, but now I see it is not something that is supported throughout this thread. And I don't rescue pit bulls or give diane jessup hand jobs. I don't always agree with things over there.

Hello all, this is the first time I have been on this forum, I was directed here by someone else on another forum, a pitbullforum.com. I have to say I am surprised to find what seems to be pro fighting "gameness" sentiments being glamorized here. I was unaware that there was something called matching, I don't know what it is. Although fighting is the only way to test for "gameness", which is what your talking about. Which is ILLEGAL, WRONG, OUTDATED, INHUMANE. "First, matches have rules, fights dont. Kinda like a street fight vs. a boxing match. The street fight is just two people going at it while the match was contracted for a certain date, time, weight.... The dogs are brought into a match in top condition. Dogs used in fighting are usually forced into fighting while dogs in matches want to be there." So how is matching controlled, how are there rules are the dogs muzzled, umm I don't understand? So matching is fighting with rules??? umm still illegal, and wrong. All I have heard to defend this matching are the same excuse fighters give for there dogs, it is sickening to read this, like it is accepted here. Please correct me if I am wrong. I mean I would like to think this is a forum I can be on without comprimising my morals. I can't beleive that this isn't banned on here, a website about dogs, talking about, cruel acts on dogs, should be banned. I am totally confused I feel like I walked into another dimension or something. Are you going to just ignore what I said like the last guy? The orginal topic of this thread, what to do about the abuse on pit bulls, which I agree is actually a problem with all dogs. There are lots of people fighting for and supporting pit bulls, check out the forum I listed. Post these sentiments on there, you will find your excuses shot away one by one.