GizmoRedNosePit

ok, I have to call between 2:00 and 3:00 to schedule a pick up time tonight....I'm gonna be so happy to pick her up! :D

GOOD GIRL BEAGLE! THANKYOU FROM ME AND GIZMO! :D :D :D

Yup I know! Thats why after I posted that I tried to go find a list with the pit on it but all I found was the worst (dangerouse) dogs....grrrr :evil: They aren't dangerouse if brought up right....

Laser really! Thats cool....Yeah I picked up a pair of scissors and Gizmo was right there and she started moving her floppy ears and I was like HOW could anyone hold a dog down and cut their ears the way some peaople do it made me sad :(

See that is what I was wondering, but all I can say is I hope they aren't that badly treated, it worries me also Newfie mom.....but we cant really do anything.... :(

God I hope gizmo is ok, she is in a little cage, all alone, scary....poor baby :(

I have given myself a couple days to cool off with sibe husky's opinion, I am not going to waste my time, becuase I treat my dog with love and she is not mean and shows NO part of it. Ohh yeah Sibe Husky BY THE WAY: If a pitbull stays inside and goes outside when it wants you say that is wrong right???? Well I guess I have just saddest pit bull pup in the world then! Becuase you know what she is inside all day and only goes out when she goes pee, now if she wags her tail and oves playing inside is that such a bad thing?? Well that is my .02 Cents....Your pointless saying that and I think it is VERY FUNNY! HAHAHAHAHAAA....I feel sorry for your dogs that are tied up outside, hot, and sad...because while you are inside int eh nice cool a/c they are outside asking LET ME IN...... :wink: Just thought I would let you know that!

When gizmo would do this (she was alot younger then that) I would pick her up from the back of the neck (doesn't hurt) and i took her out side and made her realize that outside is the place for that...... :wink:

Thats cute, I thought it was d-4 becuase that is the picture I had up when I first joined the forum...hmmm boxer.....I even did what I hate when people mistake gizmo for a boxer...Ohh well they are cute too! :D

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: OMG, Thats great, Never seen it before but I loved it! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

PitBulls in most cases are highly aggressive towards ANY animal, no matter what kind, number, or size.[b]Only if they were not socialized and not loved when they were growing up...Any dog will be highly aggresive towards animals if they aren't brought up with them... [/b]PitBulls are one of the most dominant and powerful mammals out there. [b]You really dont want to hear what I have to say do you! My pit will back down if a dog comes up wanting to fight, she is NOTHING even near ALPHA and as soon as a dog comes up to her and wants to fight she WILL lay on her back and show her belly.[/b]They have the most solidity and defined musculature of any dog breed, or animal for that matter. [b]Well yeah and the problem with that is??? Tell me a person that is more built then another person they dont get descriminated so why should "more built" dogs get descriminated???[/b]They ARE THE MOST GAME ANIMALS ON THE PLANET. [b]Yeah that is what they were bred for A LONG TIME AGO, that DOES NOT mean that are going to kill everything they see. And when was "gameness" ever a bad thing? They have "gameness" to please their owners hearts out of their bodies! Is that such a bad thing? This breed is the most loving breed I know because they have so much gameness.[/b]Gameness as a quality means never backing down, fighting to the death even with missing limbs and eyes, and always wanting to quarrel with another animal. [b]Ummm, yeah this only happenes when the owner beats their dogs to allmost death and then the dog will fight for its life, and it's not only THIS BREED, if you beat a lab like people do a pit I'm sure the lab would do the same thing![/b]Determination goes hand-in-hand with GAMENESS, and I doubt that there is any animal with as much determination as an American Pit Bull Terrier[b].NO, maybe not but gameness, like I said above IS NOT THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD! [/b]Pit Bulls are also impervious to pain, with a staggeringly high thresh-hold for it. [b]High thresshold for pain is not a bad thing in my book, that means they can have surgery and just walk it off, how is that bad let me know....[/b] They have the strongest bite-grip of ALL dog breeds, as well as ANY mammal in the animal kingdom. They have an up- front generated bite strength (capacity) of anywhere between 2,000 PSI - 2,600 PSI.[b]Umm this is the biggest JOKE ever spread around about pitbulls buddy! They do not have that and they have the same bite as anyother dog, the only diffrence is, is that they have more gameness then anyother breed, like you have been saying ALL ALONG![/b] I have heard reports of these numbers even hitting the 3,000's in provocation sustained tests using a PSI measuring sleeve. Even 2,000 PSI can crush a human skull, very easily. [b]Blah, Blah, Blah, BLah, Where did you get all this "inforamtion that has to be right, because you dont own a pitbull right ,you just know all this info on them".....I have one and you dont even know the diffrence between anyother breed and the american pitbull terrier BECAUSE YOU DONT HAVE ONE.[/b]Pits have a propensity towards aggression, as they were originally bred to fight bulls and bears. [b]Yes, that is known by everyone int he world, Yeah they can also hunt down VERY BIG WILD HOGS, you forgot to mention that also! [/b]Pits can be molded very easily, meaning you control how they act almost 100% of the time, that is if you are strong enough for this kind of dog.[b]Yes, training is the word for this. You just made the point that pitbulls are the easiest dogs to trian becuase of their gameness to please and they can be molded very easily..A child could easily handle a well trained pitbull.....Thankyou![/b] When Pits lock down their powerful jaws,[b]Biggest joke in the world[/b] think of a trash-compactor with teeth,[b]like I said biggest joke in the world! [/b]to get the general idea. They can break bones like toothpicks, and bite deeply into the bone through the muscle. Most dog breeds can't even bite through or even deep into the muscle !! When a Pit has a good hold (lock), sometimes, they can stay suspended in mid-air for up to an hour or more. I have a red-nosed APBT that can hold onto a rope from a tree for around 40 minutes, kicking and shaking his head almost the hole time.[b]So you say you have one, then why are you telling everyone that pitbulls are dangerouse, why are you adding to the "bad press" Tell me why, and you should learn the diffrence between real facts and fake...because this jaw pressure crap is NOT TRUE.[/b] The PSI measurement, assuming the back molars were ONLY doing the biting or gripping, is 280,000 lbs. of pressure per square inch, possibly even more. This almost 300% PSI increase is only because any mammal or animals back molars can crush or bite up to and over 120x the bite pressure that the front to mid teeth can produce in pressure strength.[b]Blah, Blah, Blah where are the facts of this, I have pages among pages that this is a joke and not true....[/b] Pits are, by nature, the most experienced and most effective fighting dogs ever produced. Pits fight longer, more effectively, and better than any animal that I can name. Pits are highly athletic as well --- Verticling an 8ft. fence won't be a problem. If you've ever been ramsacked by an excited or even aggressive Pit Bull, then you are quite aware that even this medium sized dog can, without a doubt, bring even a Pro. Football LineBacker down to the ground......... assuming medium height, usually applying it's weight towards the lower torso or pelvis, and knocking you hard off your feet onto the ground. I own 2 red-nosed APBT's, I have plenty of experience with Pits. I also obtained my ACCURATE PSI measurements from Cornell University Professors and Berkely Professors during their time of research on carnivore jaw and tooth development, both professors have their Phd's. [b]IT"S NOT TRUE, I DONT CARE WHERER YOU SAY YOU GOT THIS INFO IT'S NOT TRUE!![/b]Pit Bulls are also excellent at weight-pulling, being able to pull 4,000 lb. sleds over 20 yds in competitions. American Pit Bulls are the strongest dog of ALL dog breeds, regardless of their 30-75 lb. size........ even though I've seen them get up to and over 130 lbs !....... check [url]http://www.landofthegiants.com[/url] for any doubters. Are "PITS" dangerous, YES ! Mostly towards animals though, less towards humans. Do Pit Bulls make good house pets ? Almost always the case, NOPE. They should be kept outside in their respective kennels or dog houses.[b]Why?? So they are chained out side also right so they can jump the fence and go kill right? [/b]I have encountered my friend's pits before, 2 of which, wouldn't harm a fly and are flops, or currs........ meaning too loveable or scared to fight or show maximum aggression. Bottom line, Pits are very very very, have I stressed VERY enough ?? --- DANGEROUS ANIMALS !![b]NO they are not, you dont love your dogs enough....if you say this while we get all bad rap for these dogs....what is wrong with having a pitbull that loves and gives kisses.....tell me[/b] If you do want a pit down the road............ raise it from a pup, socialize it with people and other animals the day that you get it, go with a female gender (gentler), and baby it as much as possible with love...... if it gets out of hand, punish it without abusing it.[b]This is what you should do WITH ALL DOGS, just not the APBT.... [/b]Let it know who's boss. My friend has a 2 month old AMSTAFF/RED-NOSE APBT cross that has humped my leg twice, and humps the other full grown dogs that he has in his house, at 2 months of age ! This shows you exactly how dominant the dog breed in general is, and if not corrected early on, will remain more dominant than even you, it's master. Take my advice, PIT BULLS ARE HIGHLY DANGEROUS ![b]GRRR Stop saying that, you haven't seen my pit then. She is pure and she has never shown a bit of aggression, we have another friend and he has a male and this pitbull is laid back and if a dog comes up and grabs a ball then he just lays their he doesn't ahve any aggresion either where do you get this??[/b] I've seen, with my own eyes, just how dangerous they really are. Cops are even afraid of them, [b]Where did you get this?[/b]as I've heard plenty of reports where cops have shot them numerous times in the head and the pit keeps coming for the cop. [b]Yeah, the type of pit that is brought up getting abused every day, not every pit is like this....[/b]In one case, an oficer shot a pit over 30 times, and it was still alive ! In another case, a cop shot a pit coming towards him countless times, before the pit jumped up, grabbed his throat and ripped it out in full ------ trachea included ! Do a search at Google on Top Secret Animal X files, or something of that label, to find this exact criteria from the reports from the under- ground media posted there. Please people, take my advice, don't have one unless you know that you can and will properly control it's behavior from early on, and in the future.[b]This goes for all dogs, not just the pitbull.[/b] They may not have lock- jaw,[b]finally you say that![/b] but unreal determination to not let go of a grip severely out- weighs it's lock-jaw rumor. Pits can be considered a highly lethal weapon, just like a gun. Most people think that this is absurd....... only, they forget that a gun is only lethal when it goes off.[b][/b] [b]Sibehusky[/b] dont take this to be rude or anything like that, but it is my opinon and it seems to me you are letting people know how dangerouse this breed COULD be if not brought up right and tied up outside and not loves and socialized correctly, I agree with a couple things you said but not alot. This is my first pit and I love her unconditionally and socialize her more then I have ever heard, My goal in life is to have her and prove to alot of people that you can change this breed and it wont be anything the way that the MEDIA believes it to be..... :wink:

This is what I have writen, I can only hope he will change his mind.... I just heard that you might give "us people" a chance that owns pitbulls. I hope that is true becuase then you will learn the breed and not be like EVERYONE else in the world. Now personally before you go and report anything you should research the "breed" by going a REAL breeder not a backyard breeder and see the TRUE APBT and all the "Other known pit bull breeds" and stay with the dogs all day, watch them, and observe how they are NOT aggresive and killers from the begging. Now true this breed was bred to fight, but I have a pitbull and her favorite thing to do is give kisses. She is protective of the house ( which everydog is) and she is protective of her owners (which everydog is). Now if she didn't show a single bit of aggression towards a stranger coming into the house, while we are there, would you still consider her dangerouse? Because when a stranger does come in the house she gets so excited she goes up to them and kisses them and loves them like she has known them all her life. She has allways done this. Never bit anyone, never hurt anyone, nothing like what the MEDIA thinks that this breed it like.....Sure I know every dog is diffrent BUT she is pure bred, and has grown up with a loving family, and is still being trained...BUT the ones that DO TURN are the ones that are tied up in the backyard, no water, no food, NO loving affection, ONLY beatings and beatings will they finally turn "mad". Wouldn't you....I know I would if someone kept beating me over and over again....They dont know what is wrong if they have grown up with it all thier life.....You wouldn't either.... Please take this and think about this letter and this breed, It's VERY unfair to this breed to be singled out. Every type of breed in the long run HAS bit someone and they didn't want to "ban" the breed....please dont particaipate in this horrible idea, if and once the breed is banned then they will be ever MORE WANTED by people...just like if a kid cant have certain candy they want it even more.... This is decrimination and it's not fair to the breeders and owners of well trained, well behaved APBT's. Remeber, there are NO bad dogs out there, only bad owners and poor trianing..... Please reconsider what you believe and give ALL of us a chance...... Please write back and tell me what you think...I can get stories of this breed that you can not believe how incredible this breed is....

:D Just gotta sign up for the Horsefeathers! appreciation society!! Perfectly said K!

The way I see it is it's allready done and I cant do anything about it......I'm not gonna get all rilled up about this one....but the next one I will...too tired and exuasted...

Thanks roo! I'll try in a couple days.... :D

Thats a clever idea K! Hey you didn't even say hi when you came online! :P

[b]15 Minute Liver Treats [/b] 1 lb chicken livers 1 cup flour 1 cup corn meal 1 Tablespoon garlic powder 1 Egg Place chicken livers and liquid in blender, liquify. Add egg, mix a minute more. Pour into bowl. Add flour, corn meal and garlic powder. Mix. Spray jelly roll pan with pam. Pour mixture into pan. Bake 15 minutes in 400 degree hot oven. Cut into small squares while still warm. Keep in freezer to prevent spoilage. My dogs love them frozen. [b]LIVER TREATS [/b] All you need are beef livers. Try your local meat packers; they often throw them away. Or you can buy fresh liver from the supermarket. Cut the liver into approximately 1 inch slices. Place in your food dehydrator for 24 hours*. Use Pam or the equivalent on the drying racks, so the liver won't stick. Let dry for 24 hours. *Or you could place them on a cookie sheet and bake in a 325 degree oven for about 45 minutes to help dry them out. From Sid Biddle [b]TEMPTING TRAINING TREATS [/b] 2 1/3. cup flour (all-purpose or whole wheat) 1/4 cup olive oil 1/4 cup applesauce 1/2 cup grated cheese (like parmesan) 1 large egg 1 tsp. garlic powder 1/4 cup non-fat powdered milk Combine all ingredients in a large bowl; mix well; Roll the dough out to size of a cookie sheet; Pat the dough onto a lightly greased cookie sheet, bringing it to the edges. Using a sharp knife or a pizza cutter, cut desired sizes into dough (just score through). If you're using as training treats, cut them into small pieces; Sprinkle a little extra cheese and garlic powder if desired on dough for flavor. Bake in a 350 degree oven about 15 minutes until golden brown. Turn off the oven and let cool for a few hours; They will keep hardening the longer you leave them. Break them apart; store tightly covered or in the freezer. From Laura Ann DeLongo, Maryland [b]Cheesey Dog Cookies [/b] 2 cups all purpose flour 1 1/4 cup shredded cheddar cheese 1/4 tsp.garlic powder 1/2 c. vegetable oil 4 - 5 Tbsp. water Combine everything except water. Whisk in food processor until consistancy of cornmeal. Then add water until mixture forms a ball. Roll it into 1/2" thickness and cut into shapes. Bake on ungreased cookie sheets about 10 min. (depending on size of shapes) at 400. Cool and store in refrigerator. From: Mrs. P. Wood, Owner of an Italian Greyhound that loves these treats. [b]Fruity Yogurt Treats[/b] 2 mashed kiwis or a jar of fruit baby food 8 oz. strawberry(or any other flavor)yogurt Mix together, freeze in ice cube tray. serve. Plus: these don't dmage gums and teeth like ice does! [b]Cheesy Garlic Chunks [/b] 1 1/2 cups whole wheat flour 1 1/4 cups grated cheese, (cheddar or something mild) 1/2 stick softened margarine 1 - 2 garlic cloves, crushed Milk as needed Cream the cheese and margarine together. Add the garlic. Add the flour and mix thoroughly. Add enough milk to form into a ball. Chill for 1/2 hour or so. Roll onto a lightly floured surface. Cut into shapes and bake at 375 degrees for 15 minutes or until lightly golden brown and firm. Makes 2-3 dozen cookies. [b]Luscious Chicken Liver Chewies [/b] 1 cup whole wheat flour 1 cup regular flour 1 cup cornmeal 2 tbsp vegetable oil 1 egg, beaten 1/2 cup chicken stock (you can use the juice from boiling the livers) 2 tsp. garlic powder 1 cup chopped chicken livers, cooked Combine flour and cornmeal. In a separate bowl, add egg with oil, add broth and garlic; mix well. Add dry ingredients to bowl a little at a time, stirring well. Fold in chicken livers and mix well. Dough will be firm. Put dough on lightly floured surface and knead briefly. Roll out to 1/2" thick and cut into shapes. Place on greased cookie sheets. Bake 15 minutes or until firm. Store in the refrigerator, or freeze for future snacks. [b]Frozen Fruit Treats [/b] Lots of Fruit Fruit Juice Low-fat Yogurt Honey Cinnamon Place any fruit you favor in a blender. Some great ones are strawberries, cantaloupe, watermelons, apples, peaches, or bananas. Add some unsweetened juice (your choice - pineapple is good). Add a little low-fat yogurt for thickening, honey for sweetening, and 1/2 tsp. cinnamon. Puree until well blended and smooth. Freeze in little cups or ice cube trays and serve as "popsicles". Enjoy everyone.... :wink: :P :D :) :lol: 8) :P :wink: :D :) :o

Beagle that is GREAT! Hey do these with out getting asked, Pick up the poop, clean up after any messes the pups do! Wash off the patio and uhhhhh let me think....vacume the house after they are done for comin inside! :wink: Just a few more things you can do!

I went to another pitbull forum and they voted now what was the last vote at? I tried to vote again today at my gradmas but it was a different poll.....so who won...unfairly probably yes's won...it was jipped.... :roll:

YUP K! I saw and HAD to post! LOL :D

I agree everyone! This list is 100% WRONG! I was searching the net and the website that I got it from is on the bottom of the first post...just thought I would let everyone know what somewhat of the world thinks..... :roll: :-?

well if they only have four years when they come out they better have probationa dn have home visits to make sure they DO NOT EVER OWN another dog! Thats what the law SHOULD do..... :roll: :roll:

Ohh NO HE DIDN"T! He is getting a VERY NASTY LETTER TOMORROW!! Sure we are defensive isn't EVERYONE about their dogs?? Especially anyone that hears this crap all day everyday "Your dog is going to chnge, your dog is going to kill your kids, blah, blah, blah, blah"....I am so sick of this crap about pitbulls! It's EVERY DOG....not just the "pitbull" You know what Im gonna ask this so called man, I'm gonna ask him if he even knows WHAT a "pitbull" is! Lets see what he comes back with...probably some technical crap! Haa...then he is really gonna get it! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x :x :x :x :x

Actually go down on the breed section and go to American Pitbull Terrier/Staffashire info: and it's by Hollywood.....That is the one I found the fastest....

Well if you put two together right next to each other it's hard to tell but if you look at the height the staff should be taller and that is the only main thing that i can say about that! I think I have posted a thing about the diffrences before...I'll go find it and then tell you where to go ok! .....