ola i zoe

kilka zdjac mojich grubaskow, dzieci carbo i zoe... maja 7 tygodni! [img]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3704/site6frereyl9.jpg[/img] [img]http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7364/soeuretfreremy1.jpg[/img] [img]http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9883/m26demieln5.jpg[/img] [img]http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/6397/m26emiezy6.jpg[/img] [img]http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1958/wm16demiequ4.jpg[/img] [img]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/9893/wm16dem3kj9.jpg[/img] [img]http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/4118/m16dem1qx9.jpg[/img] [img]http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5500/wm16dem2wx3.jpg[/img] [img]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5622/wm3demgs2.jpg[/img] [img]http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6123/wm3dem1rf7.jpg[/img] [img]http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2329/wm3demieqr4.jpg[/img]

Bardzo ladna rodzinka a mistery men, super jak zwykle! :loveu:

ale kocham waszych zdjecia maluchow :loveu: nie moge przestac patryc :multi: a justyna, ale twoja tasha szubko rosnie, i ladnie rosnie :loveu:

zoé i ja dziekujemy za komplimenty :oops: :p

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Pare noych zoé zdjecia, robione przez Nelly :D [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fevportrait2.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fevportrait3.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fevportrait5.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fava5.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/feva3.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fev1.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/fev4.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/zoefeva2.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/saut2.jpg[/img] [img]http://site.voila.fr/mcperformancearizona/site/foto6/sauttop.jpg[/img]

naprawde SPANIALE te wasze maluchy, kazdy troche inny i kazdy bardzo ladny w swojim stylu. :multi: :multi: :multi: a Trinity :loveu: , jaka ladna glowka na tym zdjeciu No powiedz Amfi, jakis jeden nie zostanie u cibie w domku ?:cool3: ;)

SUPER, DUZE BRAVO!!!! Bardzo sie ciesze z tych nivinnek!

Ale macie kochane malutkie brzydulki w polsce :loveu: :loveu: :loveu:

lala cudowna, ohlala jaka classa :razz: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: i moj ulubiony carbo, ale ladny!!! musze ci ukrandac te zdjecia justyna:cool3: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: Wesolych swiat dla wszyskich !!!! ;)

[quote name='AMFI'] a tu synek-mamisynek: [IMG]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2697/1816lp4.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] Jakie to kochane!!!!!!!! :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu: :loveu:

SUPER, BRAVO dla wyniki FRIDY I VICTORY MARCH PULLERA!!!! :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: :multi: Po malu, po malu, tak wlasnie treba robic! Nie dlugo jestem pewna ze wiekszosc bedzie badana!:lol:

[quote name='Nela']:crazyeye: :crazyeye: :crazyeye: :crazyeye: [FONT=Comic Sans MS][B]przeciez on jest ojcem [COLOR=black][SIZE=3][COLOR=red]Sharoc Fransimo Red Boy[/COLOR][/SIZE] !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/COLOR][/B][/FONT] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=black]No ladnie !!!!![/COLOR][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=black]A na ich stronie nie widac zeby Red Boy byl badany !!!!! A obilo mo sie o uszy ze on duzo w Polsce reprodukowal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Teraz to jeszcze latwiej bedzie znalezc ........ potencjanie CARRIER psy .............:mad: [/COLOR][/FONT][/B][/QUOTE] No i ztego co mozna zobaczyc na bazie "bullhawk" , juz 2 jego siostre z tego saamego miotu badane sa carrier (Sharoc Chisled Iron i Sharoc Hidden Treasure)!!! Chyba chodowca wie te informacje lepjej niz my... :placz: :shake:

Tameford Paratrooper From Sharoc jest carrier (CH. Yorkstaff Crackerjack carrier), uwielbiam te psy.... jak bedziecie uzywali w polsce, badajcie suki...

W franci, wszyscy zaskoczeni bo znowu jeszcze jakies nowe psy carrier w europie...i wszyscy mowia ze trzeba badac aby dobrze plannowac mioty 1carrier+1clear, nie bede wam dokuczac, ale zobaczie ze pare imie psow byly uzywane w polsce...L2 jest wrzedzie, mozna z tym hodowac ale trzeba baddac!!! o to nowy link... [url]http://www.staffordshirenbullterrieriyhdistys.fi/L2HGA_ja_HC_tulokset.htm[/url]

przepraszam ze mie tak dlugo nie bylo...ah problemy z ineretem, to wszedzie bywaja lol! No to co port erin sie dowiedziala o chorych psow, to samo slyszalam i od poczatku mowie ze meterynazy sie nie znaja i czesto psy sa leczone na epilipcje... Dalam wam duzo czytania ale chocias mozna sie troche dowiedziec... jeszcze znalazlam cale pismo na "THA ANNUAL 2005" ksiaszka po wystawie "cruft" na koniec duzo mowia a horobie i testach...jak bede miala wjecej czasu, przepisze wam to Jak ktosz sie zdecyduje badach, nie wwysylac teraz bo beda zamykali laboratorium na wakacje dla koniec roku (od 13/12/06 do 08/01/07) i jezeli jeszcze ktos chce sobie poscytac po angelsku, na tym slynym angielskim forumie sa cale tematy o L2, HC I PHPV [url]http://forum.bullbreedsonline.com[/url] No i MALYCH od 2 RODZICE CLEAR nie TRZEBA BADAC, dlatego mowilam o napisanie wynikuw w rodowodzie...no ale nikt tu nie reaguje... Juz wam nie dokuczam lol ola

AMFI, dziekuje bardzo dla zoé, ja tez uwielbiam ten jej wyraz, jak sie patry na nas s tymi oczami :loveu: :D Justyna, dzieki dla malej :D I duze buziaki od zoe dla was i dla Carbo :loveu:

Ludzie co opowjadaja bo mialy chorego AFFECTED!!! staffikka!!!! "As everyone is now aware, I have had an L2 affected boy. I was asked to write about my experience, although I still don?t feel ready inside to do so, I doubt I ever will be. I really can?t remember now the ages of the stages he went through, I could only hazard a guess. I first got him at 8 weeks old. Took him home and found him to be very hyperactive even then, I would be on the phone to friends telling them how hyper he was. Everyone including myself said the same thing, boys can be like that, never having had a boy puppy, I had to agree. I could not keep a collar on him as he hated it and would always find himself something to hang himself on. A few weeks passed and the more hyper he became, he started the usual puppy biting, when exited, but would not take a telling and the biting and jumping around got worse, forever biting at people and my other dogs, everything a normal puppy would do, but more over the top, and he would never take a telling off, but continue to do as he pleased. It really felt like he just could not help himself. He was able to tire out all my dogs, I would put the with him one at a time, but they would all end up knackered in bed and he would still be jumping around the house, Every night at 10.30 on the dot (strange but true) without fail, he would go to bed, but only sleeping for a few hours at the most. As soon as he heard another dog, he was off again, most nights it was like having a baby, as I had to get up with him, before he woke the whole house up, like he often did, By 4 months, I knew there was something wrong, I could see a slight tremor/shake in his head, when he tried to stay still or concentrate on something, He would not listen to a word he was told; I removed him from the bin 30 times in a row one day. I had to keep a constant eye on him, the rest of the family were beginning to get a bit fed up of his ways. I think I had a bit more patience as I felt deep down there was something wrong, Whenever friends or family came to visit, they would ask me to put him away, he did not bite in a vicious manner, but it did hurt and he had been known to nip quite a few guests. I read up all I could on L2, but his signs, symptoms and ages of the symptoms, seemed much earlier and much worse, than it stated on websites, I began to notice the way in which he would jump on the bed settee etc, it looked so different from the way any other dog would do it, infact it always made me and the kids laugh, he looked very straight stiff legged, both legs move in the exact same time, it was like a kangaroo jump. Some of the kid?s friends noticed this, even the ones that don?t have dogs of their own, so it was very obvious. By now his head would tremble/shake more badly when he tried to focus on something. He would eat and eat, much more than the rest of the dogs, but never got fat, I suppose his hyperactivity kept burning it off. When he was 6 months old, I had him L2 tested, I knew the results would be affected, just as they were. He would now really be getting on the nerves of my other dogs, he would wind them up so much, jumping over them, under them, biting them etc that instead of biting him, a wee pup, they attacked one another, resulting in not only a trip to the vet, but also to the plastic surgeon for my daughter. And in another week or so to the and e for me. If he were to run in the garden, I would later see his back end, walk like, what I can only describe as John Wayne. He would hate to have on a collar and lead, and jumped about the whole time while wearing it, so walks was now out of the question, From around 8 months his muscles would tighten more and more often, I could see he was in pain, but he would still try to run around. His head started to show stronger trembles, if often looked like he was struggling to keep his head up, this would still happen when he tried to focus or when he got exited, seeing another person or another dog, I had now to try and keep him away from all the other dogs, as hearing them was enough for him to get exited, and his head would shake and tremble, along with the rest of his body, it looked like the first stage of an epileptic fit while still awake, I tried him in an outside kennel, but he was too stressed out, and only made matters worse, as he could still see the other dogs. I had to stop friends and family visiting and also the kids from taking their friends round, infact I had to stop anything, that would make him happy. I had to more or less keep him in his cage. One day when the rest of my dogs were in noisy run around mode, I put his collar on as I wanted to take him out, away from the house, I turned round to see him doing, what looked like a puppy, scratching at a collar for the first time, I saw his legs getting stiff, so I took the collar off, but his leg continued to make the same movement, within a few seconds he was doubling up in two. So far doubled up, that his back paws were actually touching his front paws. He fell over and started shaking, all through this, he was still awake and still trying to move along the floor, I stood numb, kids screaming at me to do something, Craig picked him up, but there was nothing we could do, he held him close and tried to keep him still, All along, the breeder had told me she would have him back, try find some medication and get him in a nice quiet home, as a quiet home was what he probably needed, So now both my kids were screaming at me, that I was murdering him, keeping him here, shouting at me to do something. Watching two teenage kids, crying like small children and listening to them blame me, knowing that they had every right to blame me for it, is not the easiest thing in the world believe me, I did nothing while he was fitting, I was scared stiff, I just stood there numb, kids screaming, dog fitting, I have never saw anything like it in my life, and I pray to god, that I never see it again. Craig held him for I think around 30 mins, kids sat round him crying and petting him, they gave him ice cream, whether this helped or not, I don?t know but he returned to normal afterwards. 3 More times that week he had fits in the same way I could handle watching him no more. I phoned the breeder and told her, I was going to take him to the vet, as he would suffer no more. The breeder wanted to see him and see if she could help, He went back to her under the condition, that he will suffer no more, if she cannot help then she must help him by doing the humane thing, Today he is in a quiet home, and doing much better he is on medication, the name I cant remember, he gets a little stiff on the back end sometimes but nothing to bad YES I feel guilty, yes I feel useless. Yes I have felt like I gave up. Yes I did want to prove to myself and everyone else that I could do this, Yes I succeeded in hurting myself and my family and probably my boy, I just did not know what to do for the best at the time. Yes people have said I have given away a dog because it was L2 affected, hands up, I have, but believe me when I say, this has had to be one of the hardest decisions I have made. So no one can call me anything, I haven?t already called myself. My boy was born before L2 testing was available All I can say now is PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TEST don?t put anyone else through this, it?s not only the dogs that suffer, think of the children and their L2 pet. Thanx to all them who have been involved in the L2 campaign etc, if you have saved just one family from this grief, then I commend you "

cos o HC znowo... [url]http://www.sheffstaffs.co.uk/default.asp?page=pedigrees#[/url] i FORUM SBT IT IS RED PROBLEM Hi Tony, What you said is correct it's a total myth about it being a "RED" problem H/C doesn't see colour it affects all colours but because the "RED's" are closer bred, there has been a problem in certain "RED" lines in the past the but "RED RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS" have their stock checked far more than most other coloured breeders so a numbers game says the RED breeders are going to find problems, IF YOU DON'T TEST YOU DON'T FIND PROBLEMS !!!! There have been several dogs with H/C who are NOT RED and as far as i know (and i'll stand correcting) the majority of PHPV is found in "NONE REDS" The research into the eye problem seems to be taking forever, I asked when the blood test is finally with us which will accurately identify the carriers could it be a mandatory requirement prior to breeding and more importantly before registering any puppies The feedback i got was "THIS WILL NEVER BE" so really what's the point if you can carry on regardless and MANY STILL WILL . I will pose a question here to you all just to see what you really think about the future of this breed, if a test was with us now how many of you would want it as a mandatory pre requisite to breeding? I await your replies. Steve Hi Steve... I have the reddest of red dogs..... I've never heard anything about problems being specific to any colour... except of course deafness and whites..... I would most definatley get my stock tested if a blood test was available.... The Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of Victoria has recently introduced mandatory eye testing of parents and litters to be able to register the litter for sale thru the club...... I think this is a step in the right direction..... Donna T. Hi Donna, Please send a sincere thanks to your club and it's members from myself for introducing this scheme. I was sat here thinking does anyone REALLY CARE and it would appear the SBTC of Victoria are leaders and you must be applauded for you forethought and the care you have all given for your breeds future. THIS IS THE WAY TO GO may others follow in your footsteps!!! Thanks again Steve Hi Steve & Donna I am normally a lurker but there are people out there who do care, we have been eye testing since 1995 and it is an ongoing process through out the years. We also get our dogs tested for other hereditary problems whether they are a problem in Staffords or not, we I believe have a duty of care to the breed. Kind regards Robert & Carol Waterhouse Brindale Staffordshire Bull Terriers - Staffords with character Hi Robert & Carol I understand what you are saying and your testing is a credit to you both, but there are also a lot of people out there who don't give second thought about breeding from none tested stock and that includes quite a few championship show judges here in the UK ( I wonder why ? ) Regards Steve Hi Steve I suppose its the unknown and maybe in some cases in the UK veterinary expense or just plain ignorance. Unfortunately until the Kennel Clubs around the world acknowledge that a particular breed has a hereditary problem and makes the members test their animals prior to registering, breeding, etc nothing will ever be done. I know that when we receive phone calls from prospective Staffords buyers, we give them a bit of a lecture (lol) on the breed which also advises that they should make sure that the pup they purchase has been eye checked by a registered ophthalmologist (spelling? lol) and that the parents have also been tested. All you can do is try. Carol Carol I don't think it's the expense that would deter the breeders from testing, it's only Ś?30 for an eye test but they don't go, yet seem all too happy at paying Ś?20+ for an entry at a show and then pay between Ś?20 and Ś?50 petrol going to various shows so surely it cant be cost. We have a bad lot of people here and i suppose all over the world who delight at the suffering of others who do test and find problems, they start witch hunts and condemn certain bloodlines. They need to CONGRATULATE these people for firstly TESTING and secondly for donating blood for the research, they don't appreciate the fact that without this much needed blood there will BE NO GENETIC TEST FOUND. People who test don't want to find a problem but are responsible enough to go through the eye test hoping to breed from tested clear stock and that has to be a positive way forward. Steve Hi Steve, I will print out this email (with your permission) and take it to our next committee meeting to express your thanks. Personally I think also it is a step in the right direction and can only benefit our breed. Interestingly enough there were some who were opposed to the idea and felt that it was upto a breeder to decide whether or not to test. It is still upto the breeder whether to eye test or not - however those who do not do not have the opportunity of placing their puppies on the clubs listings. Why anybody would NOT want to do something which is beneficial to our breeds future - well it is just beyond me! Cheers Penni I'd have no problems whatsover in mandatory testing of any kind on breeding stock. I think if there was more testing and responsible people actually taking notice of the results (we all know there are those who test then ignore bad results anyways) then it can only be a positive thing for our breed. Cheers Hi Jack, The scheme does not enforce club members eye testing rather than members wishing to place their puppies on the puppy listing service must have had dog, bitch and pups eye tested. So, breeders who do not wish to eye test are not allowed put their pups on the list. It's a shame as I would like to see all breeders eye testing. However - it IS a step forward and a step in the right direction. Perhaps eventually something will come up about all members eye testing - altho this point has yet to be brought up. Cheers Penni Hi, Can I just state that I KNOW this is not a red problem, or any other colours problem!. I was not trying to suggest that it was. I was just trying to come up with a possible explanation for there being less reds in the ring recently. I know that reds are no less popular than they ever were with pet owners. Most people love reds. And it is certainly not that reds are of a lesser quality than any other colour, look at Jackstaff Fascination,Ashstock By Jupiter, Arnhem Nice And Spicy,Staffmaster Flashpoint,Lord Fagin At Denegar,etc,etc.The quality is most definitely there. So why? Sian Hi sian, i think most of us understood what you were saying, i myself loves reds, my first stafford was one, but i only have black/brindles or brindles at the moment. I have just been looking at my Potteries 1985 year book. and the gallery of champions, all pics are black and white so its only the ones i can see as definate brindles have i counted, i found RED.. 8 BRINDLE ..7 WHITE/PIED ..7 BLACK/BRINDLE ..17 When i look around the show ring now, most the people i was showing with around 12 years ago are mostly still showing the same colours, and when you think most pups born go to pet homes and they do not end up in the show ring, so altho i think there are fewer reds around, i feel over the last few years brindles are on the increase, which i personally think will help increase the reds, i myself would use a brindle with a red but i dont think i would use a very black/brindle dog on a red. happy staffording sharon Hi Steve On our website we have a pedigree database for Staffords which is ever growing!! we have just over 21000 pedigrees on there at the moment and i have another 360000 yes Three Hundred and sixty thousand to still enter!!!! Recently I have made some changes to the database to include Eye test results, This week I obtained a list from the kennel club of all dogs that have failed there eye tests and I have recorded the results onto the database, I have already recieved one phone call of complaint asking me as to why I am displaying the fact that this persons dog failed its eye test and was accused of stirring the proverbial!!! I tried to explain that I was merely displaying the facts and in doing so it may help people who have these dogs in there pedigrees to choose wisely when breeding (what have these people got to hide??) also on the database after searching for a dogs name if you click on the Breeding Info button you can see relations of that particular dog be it littermates, half siblings, full siblings or litters produced this way you can see what relations have produced affected animals. Is this a good thing??? I think so but obviously some dont!!!! Also if people wish to e-mail me a scanned copy of there eye test certificate i will update there dogs pedigree with the results. Regards Steve Horsman [url]http://www.bullhawk.co.uk/search.html[/url] Sharon, That's another point. The 'brindle' brindles! If that makes sense. I too would use a brindle with reds as you still get nice reds through with good pigmentation and also, you get the beautiful rich variety of brindles. I am not sure about black brindles with reds. It's probably quite wrong but I would worry about black n tans and smuts. Although saying that, a friend of mine has bred reds to blk brin quite a few times over the years and has never produced anything but reds,brindles and blk brin. Sian. But Sharon and Sian, Wouldn't this be where you would have to go back into the pedigrees and determaine what other colours are in the lines of both Black brindles and Reds when breeding IS NOT A RED PROBLEM It never ceases to amaze and astound me when long-time Breed veterans 'fess up that they haven't a clue about the simplest and most visible aspect of canine genetics, namely, color...because if they don't understand the expression of coat color in Stafford, they certainly can't understand more complex conditions or problems. I think Jean Richardson, our resident Stafford geneticist, will back me up when I say that coat colors approved in the Standard haave nothing whatever to do with conditions not related to coat color. Some Stafford "authorities," who really ought to know better, perpetuate coat color mythology. I personally witnessed one extreme example of several years ago at a meeting during the Cherry Blossom Circuit shows when three (count 'em, THREE) UK judges affirm to audience of gullible Yankees that there wasn't a red dog in the UK worth breeding to. When I was raising Arabian horses, I had a special shovel for that stuff! Steve Of course it isn't a red problem, Steve.

Breed Council sub Committee Recomendations on the use of DNA tests for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier With the launch of two DNA tests for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, namely for L-2 Hydroxyglutaric Aciduria (L-2HGA) and Hereditary Juvenile Cataract (HC) breeders are faced with a decision either to breed or not to breed from carrier stock identified by these DNA tests. Professional genetic advice has been sought from both the Kennel Club and the Animal Health Trust regarding the use of breeding stock identified by the DNA tests. We are advised that most benefit for a Breed is derived by using the DNA tests with a long term plan rather than a quick fix which might result in other long term problems. It is their view that DNA test results alone should not be the driving factor when planning matings, that the dog as a whole is taken into consideration, and that the long term health of the Breed is best served by using the DNA tests to avoid breeding affected dogs from a given mating not merely to exclude carriers from the breeding programme. It should be long term goal to reduce the number of carrier stock in the breeding population to either zero or negligible levels. The recommendations below have been compiled to reflect this advice. It has been agreed by the Kennel Club Finance and General Purposes Committee that when dogs have been DNA tested their names will subsequently appear in the Kennel Club Breed Records Supplement, and on the Kennel Club website stating whether they are either clear or carrier or affected. In the future registration documents will include this information where applicable, and dogs bred from parents that are DNA tested clear will be identified as hereditarily clear. When dogs are identified as hereditarily clear for these two conditions further DNA testing is not required. It is worth remembering that the genetic status of dogs that are not either DNA tested or bred from parents that are DNA tested (hereditarily clear), is unknown, unless of course they themselves are affected. Recommendations 1) All breeding stock should be DNA tested for both L-2 Hydroxyglutaric Aciduria (L-2HGA) and Hereditary Juvenile Cataract (HC) before they are bred from, unless they are from parents shown to be hereditarily clear. (See note 1).. 2) Identified carriers should not be mated to an untested dog, or to another identified carrier or to an affected dog. 3) If identified carriers are mated, it should only be to a DNA tested clear dog or a dog that is proven to be hereditarily clear.(See note 1) 4) If breeders choose to mate a DNA tested carrier dog to a DNA tested clear or hereditarily clear dog (See note 1), then they must undertake to DNA test the resultant puppies to identify their genetic status. The breeder has two options here: (a) All the puppies are DNA tested prior to re-homing, the identified carriers should then be endorsed by the breeder, ?Progeny not eligible for registration?. (See note 2) Or : ( All puppies from such a mating should be endorsed ?Progeny not eligible for registration? until such time as they are DNA tested, after which time puppies identified DNA tested clear can have the endorsement lifted by the breeder. (See note 2) Note1. Hereditarily clear means that a dog has been bred from parents that are either (a) both DNA tested clear, or ( parents that are registered as hereditarily clear . Note 2. Endorsements should be placed using the following guidelines Currently the Kennel Club permits the use of two endorsements on registrations ? Progeny Not Eligible for Registration and Export Pedigree Not Allowed. Neither of these endorsements prevents the dog from being bred from or sent abroad, but does prevent any litters being registered with the Kennel Club and the dog from being registered by an overseas kennel club. All endorsements are placed and removed free of charge. The use of Kennel Club endorsements is undoubtedly beneficial to breeders as a measure to help in protecting stock which has been carefully and responsibly bred. It is generally assumed that breeders endorse their stock to safeguard the dog?s future, the breed and themselves. As certain breeds are known to suffer from particular health problems, the breeder may wish that any stock bred by them are examined under the official health schemes prior to being bred from. In some fields, there is also concern about sending dogs to certain overseas countries, and therefore using the Export endorsement may help to prevent the dog falling into the wrong hands. To remove an endorsement, it is a simple matter for the person(s) who placed the endorsement to write in and request that this be carried out. However problems can arise when the new owner makes a request to the breeder for this to be done, only to be told by the breeder that they have no intention of doing so ? this is when the Kennel Club tends to become involved. More often than not, the new owner will then apply to the Kennel Club to remove the endorsement believing that it has not been placed in accordance with our rules and Regulations. To avoid disputes of this type, the Kennel Club strongly advises that all breeders draw up a private contract when selling puppies. If endorsements are being used, the contract should mention why these have been placed and under what conditions they would be removed (if at all). This contract should be signed and dated by both purchaser and vendor, showing that both have agreed to these terms. However it is also an area where disputes arise particularly with purchasers claiming they were not aware that the newly purchased dog would be subject to certain restrictions. If an agreement is not reached, the Kennel Club is then prevailed upon to intervene in what sometimes can be a very difficult situation, especially when there are conflicting views on whether the breeder advised the purchaser of an endorsement at the time of sale. Regulation B12 ? Endorsements (effective from 14/01/03) a. General. The registered owner of a dog may, whilst the dog is still in his physical possession, apply to place one or more endorsements in a dog?s records and to have the registration certificate annotated accordingly. The endorsements which may be placed as follows:- (1) Progeny Not Eligible for Registration (2) Not Eligible for the Issue of an Export Pedigree b. Conditions. The following conditions shall apply to the placing and removal of endorsements. (1) When a dog whose registration is endorsed is transferred to a new ownership, the endorsement(s) will be maintained. However, the person who placed the endorsement(s) must obtain written and signed confirmation from the new owner(s), at or before the date on which the dog is physically transferred, that the new owner(s) is aware of the endorsement(s), regardless of whether or not the endorsed registration certificate is available. If requested, the person(s) who placed the endorsement must be able to produce a copy of such confirmation. (2) If the endorsement is not drawn to the new registered owner?s notice, and an acknowledgement in writing of the endorsement, signed at the date of transfer by the new owner is not obtained, then any conflict regarding notice of the endorsement will be resolved in favour of the new registered owner. The endorsement will remain on the register, unless a successful application is made by the new owner of the dog under Regulation B12b.(3) below. (3) If the new registered owner of a dog did not have notice of the endorsement, that person may apply to the General Committee of the Kennel Club who will resolve in their discretion whether or not the endorsement should lapse. Any endorsement may be lifted only with the permission in writing of the endorser or by resolution of the General Committee. (4) Regulation B12b 1), 2) and 3) only apply where the registered owner who originally placed an endorsement on a dogs record, transfers the dog to a new ownership. If subsequent transfers take place, the endorsement becomes a matter between the parties involved. In such cases the registered owner placing the endorsement shall not be responsible if notification of the endorsement is not given to any new owner, and may exercise his right to decide whether the endorsement be maintained or removed subject to (5) below. (5) The General Committee reserves the right to impose, remove or maintain any endorsement. In particular, the General Committee reserves the right to impose an additional endorsement ?not eligible for entry in any event held under Kennel Club Rules and Regulations, nor any unlicensed event recognised by the Kennel Club?. (6) The General Committee reserves the right to impose the additional endorsement ?not eligible for entry at Kennel Club licensed Breed Shows or unlicensed Breed events recognised by the Kennel Club?.

tutaj listy psow angelskich clear i carrier dla L2HGA I HC Co do HC , we francji sie robi badania w tym samym czasie o L2, ta sama probka i kosztuje 150 euros. Mi sie wydaje ze wjeciej jest psow czerwonych albo jasne co sa nosicielami....nie wiem ale tak mi sie wydaje. lista dla L2-HGA (clear et carrier) [url]http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/324[/url] lista dla HC (clear et carrier) [url]http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/325[/url]

texte od daty 6/10/2006 Mise ą jour des Recherche de la L2-HGA et HC , information donné hier par "Ivor Keyes" membre d'un forum anglais. Update from BC Genetic Research sub committee The uptake for both L2HGA and HC DNA tests has been very good with numbers as follows: LH normals 1808 carriers 261 affected 18 HC normals 1151 carriers 52 affected 0 The numbers for L2HGA tests are higher than for HC because that test was available some six months sooner than the test for HC. Breeders now generally have both tests done at the same time. There have been two changes to the way samples are taken from the time the tests were made available. Initially DNA was extracted from blood samples only but as a result of requests from owners the Animal Health Trust developed tests by way of DNA extraction from check swabs i.e. saliva. However the Animal Health Trust have just recently decided to discontinue testing from cheek swabs and I quote from a mail from Nigel Holmes at the AHT ?the problem is that the swabs did not give good yields of DNA for testing so we had to keep going back to owners asking for further samples.? So although it is less convenient for owners to have to have blood taken, the time taken to eventually receive a result is shorter if retests aren?t required. The reliability of those results already taken from cheek swabs is not in question. I think that most breeders are now likely to test breeding stock, with the aim that eventually every breeder will be using hereditarily clear dogs. One disappointment for us so far has been that the results of tests had not been getting through in to the public domain by way of the Kennel Club website. We have been chasing the KC regarding this issue which has been having it?s website updated and now that the new KC web site is up and running the results are being published. Looking at the website as I write the list doesn?t have the numbers that are quoted above but no doubt that will happen in due course as the figures look as though they are being updated quarterly. We have also been working with the AHT looking at ways to improve their service to overseas countries. The Animal Health Trust have recently been in contact saying that they can now start to look at a test for PHPV. They have had discussions with a researcher looking at a similar condition in humans ( this is a similar scenario to the research path for L2HGA) and have asked if our owners would send blood samples to them to begin a project for PHPV. I have already forwarded an article from Cathryn Mellersh to Breed Club Secretaries for inclusion in Newsletters and Club magazines giving details of requirements. Hopefully, because we?ve essentially ? been there, got the T shirt?? our owners will be more acquainted with the idea than before and not need any motivating. Please encourage owners to help out. We don?t know how PHPV is inherited so in one respect the research may not be so straight forward as HC and L2HGA, on the other hand because understanding is improving and there is experience to fall back on and things could happen sooner. No funding is being asked from us for this condition. With PHPV still being prevalent we still need to keep eye testing if we are develop a DNA test and to avoid mating affected to affected. With information regarding the ?later onset cataract? (posterior polar subcapsular cataract) emerging, eye testing is the only way we?ll find out more. Just as a reminder, the later onset cataract has been identified in a small number of dogs, it does not affect both eyes and complete blindness is unusual . Because these cataracts usually start to present themselves after the age of 2 years and later, there is very little information regarding the Stafford as we usually eye test up to and around 18 months old. Lesley MacFadyen has given details about registering a litter bred from a carrier for L2HGA. Blood samples were take from puppies at 4 weeks of age, endorsed registration documents were returned by the time the puppies were 7 weeks old. She sent the registration forms accompanied by a covering letter explaining that the puppies had been sampled for L2HGA. The KC held on to registration documents until the results were received, once test results had been confirmed they were forwarded to Lesley. The documents had all the relevant information regarding genetic status printed on them. She also had the registrations endorsed ? progeny not eligible for registration? which she alone can lift if required. From a later litter Lesley has also experienced having registration endorsed hereditarily clear with the genetic status of puppies, sire and dam printed on the documents, again in good time for puppies going to their new homes. So the KC and AHT have been up to the mark regarding fast tracking of registrations. Further details can be obtained from Lesley if required. Ivor Keyes

A teraz texty po angielsku...juz nie proboje tlumaczyc, bo gorzej jest dla mnie z polskim lol! Kazdy wezmie sobie czas do przytlumaczenia.... NEUROLOGICAL CONDITION - L2-HGA (L2 hydroxyglutaric aciduria) In the past few years a small number of Staffords have been diagnosed with a metabolic disorder; its clinical title is L-2 hydroxyglutaric aciduria or L-2 HGA. This condition has manifested itself in varied ways with dogs exhibiting behaviour changes and dementia (staring at walls, getting stuck under tables and in corners, loss of obedience and house training), anxiety states, having full blown seizures, as well as exercise intolerance, ataxia (unsteady gait), tremors and muscular stiffness. Dogs from differing bloodlines have been found to be sufferers and the number of affected dogs diagnosed has risen. The disorder (and a similar linked disorder, D-2 HGA) is found in humans, again very rare, but nevertheless, devastating for the families affected by it. The disorder has an autosomal recessive method of inheritance, meaning that both parents must be carriers of the defective gene to produce affected offspring. Research into the disorder as it affects canines was undertaken at the Animal Health Trust in Newmarket, as well as at universities in Holland and USA. Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) shows changes in the grey matter of the brain in all the dogs. Testing is carried out by way of blood and urine samples; a urine test to look for abnormal elevations of metabolites is used to diagnose the disease by showing an elevation in the organic acid. The samples are analysed at a specialist laboratory. Currently numbers of Staffords have been tested to establish a database for future use with breeding programmes. Affected dogs and their immediate relatives were those mostly screened for the research programme. There has recently been discovered a genetic screening test to determine which dogs are carriers of the gene that causes L2. It is advisable that all breeding stock should be screened in order to eradicate the condition in the future. Those people that submitted samples from their dogs for the research project will be able to get their results for the carrier testing by contacting Vikki Lett, Genetic Services, Animal Health Trust, Lanwades Park, Kentford, Newmarket, Suffolk CB8 7UU to find out if the carrier test has already been run on their dog. They will need to supply the dogČŘ?s pet name, KC registered name and KC registration number, as well as a microchip number if the dog is chipped. Anyone who hasnČŘ?t had their dogs tested but want now to take the opportunity for testing can download the appropriate form from the AHT website at [url]http://www.aht.org.uk/pdf/sbtL2HGAform.pdf[/url] or by contacting Vikki for forms. The cost for the whole service will be Ś?60 per dog. Information about the testing can be found at [url]http://www.aht.org.uk/sci_diag_disc_genetic_l2.html[/url]

Najpierw dzienki tym co mie popieraja :D oh jak sie ciesze ze take reakje sa na tym temacie!!! :multi: :multi: :multi: i widze ze ludzie reaguja w dorym sensie! :mdrmed: Marta powiedziala "Właściwie wszystko zależy teraz od hodowców. Jeśli zaczną robić psom baania, inni nie będą mieli wyjścia. " i to sie juz moze zaczyna! no nie wiem z cym zaczacz.... Dzienki port erine ze miala taki pomysl dawac pytania na tym topiku i pozniej za dac te pytania do anlgli, wlasnie slyszalam tez ze ta osoba "vikki lett" bardzo dobrze odpowiada, nawek jak sie ma jakis problem z wysylania badaniami...francja tez byla z nia w kontakcie. Co bylo powiedziane, prawda ze test kosztuje duzo i do tego trzeba wszystko po malu robic. No i mozna tak zaczac, ze bada sie pierw ta suke co bedzie nie dlugo kryta, albo tego psa reproduktora co juz sie co z nim planuje tez. W franci tez "duze" hodowce co miali duzo psow chczeli badac najpierw te psy co sa na podstawie ich hodowle. I nie robi sie testu dla szeniat z tego miotu , piscze sie "clear by birth". Nawet jakis dziadek czesto uzywany i na podstawie jakas hodowle moze byc badany! We Franci, jak sie dowiedzieli ze EASTAFF TALLYS'MAN jest carrier, wrzyscy czekaly najprierw na badanie jego syna we Francji co duzo reproduktowal, AWESOME NOZAC VENTURE. Jak sie okasalo ze jest CLEAR , to dopiero zaczelo sie badac te syki z kturymi byl czesko z kojazony.... DLA TEGO MUSICIE ZAWIADOMIC WAS KLUB RASY O TEJ CHOROBIE, ABY MOZE ZA PARE CZASU, MOZE ROK A WJECEJ, NAPISALI WYNIKI BADANIA NA RODOWODY. Nawet jak badania nie deda obowiaskowe. Dla tego walza teraz hodowcy u nas, bo dla pierwszego pokolenia, jest ladwo dac copie od badania, ale co po 2-3 pokoleniach... I moze moga dac na ich stone internetowa informacje, tlumaczenie od angelskiego texta (we Franji, sie zapytali i bylo to mozliwe). A drugim czasie, dac jakas liste psow badanych i clear. Kazdy by mogl decydowac sam czy chce byc na listie, czy nie. Wtedy by popychalo bardziej ludzie do badania. No i mozna tak zaczac, ze bada sie pierw ta suke co bedzie nie dlugo kryta, albo tego psa reproduktora co juz sie co z nim planuje tez. Co o chorych psach, ja tez sluszajam ze nie mozna tego leczyc i ze szybko umieraja. I czesto, jak sie stalo to ludzie nawet nie wieldzieli na co, dlatego chyba jest malo informaje. Ta choroba zaczela byc analysowana w 2001 roku, a badanie jeszcze pozniej.

Rzesta jutro , nie zapomne o was ;)