__crazy_canine__ Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Ok Ive read plenty of posts about this on other sites about it affecting rescues but the AKC and HSUS claim it doesnt. How great of a bill can this be if PETA supports it? :roll: Anyway heres examples of it AFFECTING rescues: [quote]CROSSPOSTED: A lot of confusing stuff has been written about PAWS 2005/S1139 H 2669. This is an easy- to-read explanation. 'PAWS' is the Pet Animal Welfare Statute of 2005, a bill in the U.S. Senate (S. 1139) and House of Representatives (H.R. 2669). The bill is sponsored by Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) who bill in the U.S. Senate (S. 1139) and House of Representatives (H.R. 2669). The bill is sponsored by Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) who previously sponsored the two 'Puppy Protection Acts.' PAWS is being backed by HSUS (the Humane Society of the U.S.) and DDAL (the Doris Day Animal League), who also backed the two PPA's. Surprisingly it is also strongly backed by the American Kennel Club. More recently PETA has announced that it supports PAWS. Under the current federal Animal Welfare Act (AWA) anyone who has over three breeding female dogs *and* sells any dogs at wholesale, is considered a dealer and must get a license from the USDA. Breeders who sell *only* retail (that is, direct to the pet home) are *not* dealers and are not required to be licensed. This 'retail exemption' is why hobby breeders are not covered now. If PAWS passes, you will be a dealer unless you sell 25 or fewer dogs *and* cats together *or* you sell six or fewer litters of dogs and cats bred or raised on your own premises and no dogs or cats not so bred/raised. If you sell a 'puppy back' (stud fee puppy, etc) or you take in and sell a rescue cat or dog, you must stay under the 25 total dogs/cats limit or get a license. To get a license you must pass an inspection. There are 90 pages of regulations. These regulations are written for farm-type raising of dogs. All surfaces touched by animals must be waterproof, you must sterilize surfaces every two weeks (one allowed way is by spraying with water at 180 degrees temp.); you must have a food preparation space separate from your (human) kitchen; animal pens or cages must be considerably larger than the standard sizes of crates used for dogs; puppies, as well as bitches that will whelp within two weeks, must be kept separate from other dogs; and much more. It is generally impractical to comply with the regulations in your home. You might be able to do it with a walk-in basement set-up, but most will have to build a kennel. Expect costs in the $100,000 ballpark. You may need a zoning variance (you may not be able to get one) and in some areas, being a USDA licensed dealer will automatically make you a business required to collect sales tax and obey other laws for businesses. Being USDA licensed is harder than 'you get it right and then keep it that way.' The regulations change and each inspector has his own ideas about what's important and what compliance means. You WILL have violations, regardless of how hard you try. The AKC tells us that the USDA will have to write new regulations allowing in-home breeding. It won't happen because the large wholesale breeders who are already licensed don't want any new competition getting a low-cost set of rules. Those big dealers have a lot more clout than we do. The AKC seems to be supporting PAWS for two reasons: First, they believe that by making many small breeders subject to licensing, they'll get more who can meet AKC requirements for registering their dogs, so they'll get more registrations. Second, PAWS would double or triple the number of dealers to be inspected and there's no chance that the USDA will get a big budget increase. The AKC hopes it will be allowed to do inspections for them. Of course it would charge a fee for doing so. However if the AKC is allowed to do inspections, very likely HSUS would be too. The numbers allowed without licensing -- 25 animals or six litters sold (whichever is more) are much more restrictive for cats because of their different reproductive patterns. Some experts believe that PAWS will end the breeding of purebred cats by fanciers. Many dog and cat rescue groups take in and adopt out hundreds of animals per year. These animals are kept in ordinary (foster) homes during rehabilitation. In law, 'adopting' for any compensation is selling. PAWS will force rescuers to choose between building a shelter and limiting themselves to selling a total of 25 per year. Nonprofit status does not matter and there is no way to write an exception for rescue. What will actually happen is that incorporated rescues will dissolve, leaving the various foster homes and rescuers to do the best they can on their own. Unfortunately many shelters will allow only incorporated groups to take animals. Most home dog breeders will not be affected at first. However, PAWS will make many breeders afraid to fight new bad laws. More of the state and local breeder licensing laws that are proposed now will pass. Many of these have one or two litter and 6 to 12 animal limits without licensing; some require everyone selling a dog or cat to be licensed. HSUS has said that they consider PAWS a first step. They've also said that they believe all breeding of pets should be federally licensed. If PAWS passes, steps two, three, (and so on) will be even worse. PAWS is said to be needed because of large and growing importing of dogs and cats; this seems to be a complete untruth. It is also claimed that growing use of the internet allows direct retail selling without people being able to see how pets are bred and raised. This is true but nobody is required to buy this way and the net allows asking many questions and comparing sellers' answers. The *AKC* allows puppy advertising on its web site; if they think it's bad, why are they doing it? There is almost no commercial selling of purebred cats. The real purpose of the bill is to make it harder to breed cats and dogs at home. WE MUST BEAT PAWS. The bill is currently waiting for hearings in the agriculture committees of Congress. Sen. Santorum plans to hold a Senate agriculture subcommittee hearing after the August recess. PAWS could pass in September or October. The most important thing to do to beat PAWS is to call, write, or visit your Senators and your Representative. Tell them you OPPOSE S. 1139 (the Senate bill) or H.R. 2269 (the identical House bill). Ask friends, family, and animal businesses to do the same thing. PAWS will be bad for dogs, bad for cats, bad for pet rescuers, bad for pet owners (who will have fewer choices), and bad for our country. An easy way to write your Congressmen is to go to: [url]www.congress.org[/url] Click 'ignore this ad' near the center of the screen and type in your zip code where they ask for it. They'll show you your three congressmen; click 'e-mail', 'compose your own letter' and follow the directions to enter your message. Please Help! Walt Hutchens Timbreblue Whippets THIS MAY BE FORWARDED, COPIED, OR ADAPTED AS NECESSARY! [/quote] [url]http://www.tica.org/legislative/pawsinfo.pdf[/url] and heres sites saying it doesnt: From the Doris Day Animal League site; scroll down to "Pet Animal Welfare Statute" [url]http://www.ddal.org/legislation/federal/[/url] From the HSUS site; scroll down to "Cracking Down on Puppy Mills"http://www.hsus.org/legislation_laws/ From Pennsylvania Senator Rick Santorum's website: [url]http://santorum.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=PressOffice.View&ContentRecord_id=1247[/url] The legislation itself in both its senate and house forms, along with sponsors of the bill: [url]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquerytr/z?d109:S01139:[/url] [url]http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR02669:@@@L&summ2=m[/url] So do you all think breeders just made up it affecting rescues just to get people opposed to it or can we trust the AKC, HSUS, and PETA? :-? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDG Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 to be honest, i don't see how nonprofit organizations could be affected by legislation that regulates commercial operations. i could be wrong, but it doesn't make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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