SizzleDog Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Here's my ameteur shot at stacking Trice... [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/ForLeah/DSC_0077.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMaya Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 That's great! It looks like you have a winner there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouseatthebusstop Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 you need the back leg at the front of the photo moved back 2 inches of so looking good [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UwCRAtAZZTZtTPwMidA6svBe6DYPm6mer2xXRHSBeP5KFsa0mcwe3l!OtyGgNEF1kjO4RgOcOzILFiN3foZ*3mkjH7EC5WDzDQa4a7uSTnZjebrnvMJ2RAdJXavH4zYa/DSCF0048.JPG?dc=4675437353056831869[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzleDog Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 Actually, Dobermans need to have their hocks parallel to the ground. Here's a win shot of how the rear feet should be. Stacking standards definitely vary from country to country... [img]http://home.earthlink.net/~dabneydobes/Agador6months.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 wow he's getting so big! great picture! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Too much beauty in one picture. :o He's gorgeous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Sizzle and Mouse - both of your dogs look great and so dignified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melissajean Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 aww your pup is so cute. I love his big feet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouseatthebusstop Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 [quote]Actually, Dobermans need to have their hocks parallel to the ground. [/quote] I didn't know that I have only shown the shar-pei you learn something new every day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzleDog Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 I agree Kiwi - Here's an example of how different the stacking techniques can be from country to country: AMERICA/CANADA: [img]http://home.earthlink.net/%7Edabneydobes/zaredbis.JPG[/img] GERMANY: [img]http://www.dobermann.com/miratio/lucifer.jpg[/img] NEW ZEALAND (very similar to USA/Canada, but a bit more stretched as a rule) [img]http://www.kobra-dobermanns.com/photos/ChickenStacked_250x212.jpg[/img] GREECE: [img]http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6666/coppo_risto.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 No cropped ears in NZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMaya Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 [quote name='ESSlover']No cropped ears in NZ?[/quote] I like to see that. Nothing against you Sizzle, because I know that's what's expected in dog shows in the U.S. But I just prefer seeing dogs in their natural state. At the last Crufts show, the winning Dobe had natural ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 [quote name='JackieMaya'][quote name='ESSlover']No cropped ears in NZ?[/quote] I like to see that. Nothing against you Sizzle, because I know that's what's expected in dog shows in the U.S. But I just prefer seeing dogs in their natural state. At the last Crufts show, the winning Dobe had natural ears.[/quote] I know.. I love natural ears. I was just wondering if that was the standard or if it was the breeder/owner/handlers choice. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 [quote name='Kiwi'][quote name='ESSlover']No cropped ears in NZ?[/quote] Croppings illegal in NZ :)[/quote] Ohhh!!! Thanks Kiwi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzleDog Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 Uncropped ears are allowed in the States, but it's really frowned upon. Trice's daddy is uncropped, and he's surprisingly doing VERY well here - I guess it's more acceptable for a foreign bred dog to have natural ears... Here's one of his latest win shots here in the States. [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y114/ForLeah/TylerBOWmajor1crop.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn6 Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I love the way he looks with natural ears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomeranians Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 Yes, I much prefer the natural ears as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SizzleDog Posted May 25, 2005 Author Share Posted May 25, 2005 I guess I'm in the minority, I prefer cropped ears - but ONLY if they're done correctly. I'll take a natural eared dobe over a badly cropped one ANY day! If you're going to crop, you'd better get the dog already cropped or be "in" the breed so you know the good croppers. Ilsa and Trice were both done by the same cropper, who my breeder has flown in from across the country to do ears. They aren't just taken down to the local clinic and chop-chop, their ears are expertly and artfully done by a master cropper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 I prefer the look of the cropped ears too. Probably because I have always seen them that way. I guess if you usually seen them natural cropped would look odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroura Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I agree that his leg could be a fraction further back, Whippets have to be vertical as well but it looks to me like in that particular shot the legs are a fraction too far in. Not to worry though, it is hard to stack a puppy, believe me I KNOW!!! Boxers are notoriously wild pups ya know :wink: How old is he? He is GORGEOUS!!! And I LOVE his daddy!!! On the cropping, I guess what it primarily comes down to is what you're used to. Personally I couldn't think of anything worse, BUT then again, previously I couldn't have thought of anything worse than an UNdocked Boxer, but now I'm getting used to it I kinda like it! A bit of a pain though, it bangs everything and I'm constantly worried it's going to get injured (with the extrodinarilly high rates of undocked Boxers needing amputations from tail injuries!). What is also annoying is that Merlins breeders is one of the VERY FEW show breeders that obeys the law and leaves pups natural. All the rest are still docking. Hence, a lot of judges wont put up a dog with a tail, despite the law. I was very proud though, that at 17 weeks of age my tailed baby won best opposite over a bitch that is almost 6 months old and docked! From reasonably good kennels too, beat Merlins only other competition in the region at the last show so I'm quite positive that Merlin will have lots of wins to come! Apparently the judge just loved Merlin and said he was an extremely good specimen of the breed :D Now, cropped ears on a Boxer... THAT is ugly! :lol: (No offence to any cropped Boxer owners!). Are you showing Trice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroura Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Oh, just want to clarify about what I said about it being annoying that Merlins breeders is one of the very few that doesn't dock anymore - I mean it is annoying that no one else is obeying the law NOT that its annoying that she doesn't dock! I also wanted to comment on the NZ Dobe you posted, seems to me the syle of stacking isn't so different to other area's but that particular Dobe just doesn't have great bend of stifle or a particularly long second thigh. I really like the America/Canada Dobe - my sister is thinking of getting one, I might suggest one from American lines... unlike the Boxers, the American Dobes are quite nice! (My personal opinion only :wink: ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFox Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 [quote name='SizzleDog']I guess I'm in the minority, I prefer cropped ears - but ONLY if they're done correctly.[/quote] I LOVE cropped ears on a Dobe. In fact if I were to ever get one (adopt) I'd get one that was already cropped and docked. I know I could never get a dogs ears cropped so I'd have to get one that was already done. There is just something about a Doberman with cropped ears that looks so much more regal to me IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Kat Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 pain and torment unnecessarily is my view on cropped ears. They serve no purpose at all and are just purely for aesthetic purposes. Thankfully some Kennel clubs have their heads screwed on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I prefer uncropped, those floppy ears just call out to me in the pic of the NZ dog. :iloveyou: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pomeranians Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I'm definetly with Kat. Cropping is unnecessary and cruel, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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