Lucky Chaos Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I've decided that my next dog will most likely be a breeder dog, since I'd like to show. I've decided on an APBT but with a small, leaner build since I'd like to do agility as well. I found a breeder that seems really good to me, her dogs have the perfect structure I want, they're CH's and she's only bred one litter so far but has one planned for next year. So what do the dogo experts think? [url]http://www.cdpits.com/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 i'm the most APBT ignorant in dogo, if someone ask me what i think about those dogs structure i would say they're skinny! :lol: :oops: ... i'm sure someone will come here to give you a good opinion :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I think they look great. The dogs are all in great condition and look like they are well taken care of. Bloodlines arent bad either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon_C Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 [color=darkred]I have to agree with Izzy. To me those pups look like whippets :-? never seen APBT look so skinny There not supposed to have there ribs showing well thats my point anyway[/color]:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cairn6 Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 The website says they won't be doing any breeding until 2006 so you better get yourself on the waiting list if they aren't already filled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 A little rib in dogs isn't bad actually, they're very well conditioned. If you look at the majority of ADBA registered dogs they look like that, They're just in good shape. Cairn I'm not officially on the waiting list but I've emailed the breeder a couple of times, she said if she didn't have a pup for me she'd help me find another breeder I liked. Hmmm, thanks, its good to know coming from someone experienced with the breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouseatthebusstop Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 phone the breeder ask if you can visit- it's hard to judge with a web site if she is a good breeder -it does not matter she has not got any puppies you can see the Dam and Sire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 Mouse, she's a couple provinces away so I can't just drive over on an afternoon and take a look. But if I go to BC this summer I've already asked. Obviously if she says no I'll take the warning and find another breeder. Also she dosn't own the sire, just females. Here's a good site on the APBT registries, you can definately see the difference in the dogs. [url]http://www.apbtconformation.com/apbt_size.htm[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Lucky - Any word on the Ontario BSL. Did the breeder express any reservations bout sending one of her dogs to Ontario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 As far as I know they're still banned and none can enter after 90 days. But I'll be moving out of here before I get the pup, so no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAmericanPUP Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='Shannon_C'][color=darkred]I have to agree with Izzy. To me those pups look like whippets :-? never seen APBT look so skinny There not supposed to have there ribs showing well thats my point anyway[/color]:o[/quote] there ribs [i]are[/i] suppose to be showing and they are suppose to be that skinny, they are conditioned and what a real APBT is suppose to look like her dogs are nice..not something that i go oooh and ahhh over but that's just me...there is something about her dogs that just isnt breath taking like most ADBA pit bulls I see. but she looks like a good breeder :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendalyn Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 They look very nice! :) She seems like a great breeder! I'd like to see something regarding health testing, but maybe they just don't have it on the site since they haven't actually done any breeding in so long. It does say they breed for temperment and structure so that's good. S you're moving before you get the puppy? Have you looked around at places where you can have 3 dogs? Do you think your other dogs would get along with a new dog? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAmericanPUP Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 no she doesnt health test. i dont know any ADBA breeder that has true APBT's that does health test.. wich kinda sux....but what can ya do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 No, she dosn't health test. Thats my one drawback. But I can always get the pup tested myself before doing any doggie sports. They're definately not as eye catching as a breeder like Cold Steel pits, but much closer and the best breeder as too what I'm looking for that I've found so far. So my choices are a dog with the scructure I want, or a much larger bulkier dog by someone who health tests. Kendalyn, I'll only have the one dog. My parents flat out refused to let me take any of the three with me. Which I'll admit is fair, they're family dogs but I don't pay for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendalyn Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Cool, you'll have a slightly easier time finding a place to live! :wink: It's just a suggestion, but if you know you'll be in the same place for a while, I would consider saving up now and buying a house when you move out. You can save up a lot easier now while you're not paying rent. You could even rent out one of the rooms to a friend for some extra income. A good friend of mine did this after high school and it worked well for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Kat Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I'm not a pit expert by any means but they look extremely thin. The golden rule of weight on a dog is that 2 ribs showing should be the maximum. Thats what I was always taught with any vet that I worked with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abker17 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 I think all the dogs look good, extremely well conditioned. All that you see on them is lean muscle. For pitties, the dogs look an excellent weight in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Lucky, You stated that this breeder had more of the dog that you were looking for. Without a doubt, lines within the same breed differ significantly. What exactly are you looking for in a APBT? Most people I have spoken with who like the breed like them, at least in part, because they are solid dogs. Like the others, I am not expert in the breed, but these dogs do not look as solid as most other ABPT's I have seen. I especially am not thrilled with the look of Foxxy. Just my $.02 worth. Joseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAmericanPUP Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [url]http://www.adba.cc/p_home.asp[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAmericanPUP Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 i like lady fire fox, she looks good there is something about lady hawke that I dont like ..i guess it's her head..a lil too mmm square i guess you would say?? but she's nice lookin lady tessa looks good :) definately alot closer to you than Cold steel pits :lol: i like that CD pits has only bred once in the 20 years they have had APBT's...they look like a great breeder :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='AllAmericanPUP']i like lady fire fox, she looks good there is something about lady hawke that I dont like ..i guess it's her head..a lil too mmm square i guess you would say?? but she's nice lookin lady tessa looks good :) definately alot closer to you than Cold steel pits :lol: i like that CD pits has only bred once in the 20 years they have had APBT's...they look like a great breeder :D[/quote] Yeah I'm not a big fan of her, even if she is the mother of the other two! I especially like Fire Fox, I'm hoping she's the one they breed. What I'm looking for is much more of an "old time" dog. They do look finer boned then even most ADBA dogs but they're very leggy bitches. I absolutely LOVE Cold Steel pits but they're all the way in Florida. If you look at the majority of their dogs too they're small, no more then 50 lbs. [url]http://www.coldsteelpits.com/[/url] I don't mind a solid dog, but I don't want anything larger then 50 lbs personally. The dogs do look thin, but they're not thin from being hungry. If you look you can see pure muscle on them, would you call a human athlete thin? The dogs work, they're not AKC or UKC dogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Chaos Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 If you look at historical photos on the site AAP posted, you can see that a lot of the dogs wern't that solid. Okay these pics won't show up but if you copy/paste it they'll show up. [img]http://www.adba.cc/thumbimg.asp?i=Header Photos/TTY_37a.jpg&w=250&h450[/img] [img]http://www.adba.cc/thumbimg.asp?i=Header Photos/TTY_33a.jpg&w=250&h450[/img] [img]http://www.adba.cc/thumbimg.asp?i=Header Photos/TTY_35a.jpg&w=250&h450[/img] [img]http://www.adba.cc/thumbimg.asp?i=historical gallery/boudreaux.jpg&w=250&h450[/img] Stocky dogs probably arn't very agile. A dog in the pit needed to be agile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 maybe i am retarded, but for some reason I cannot see why I like cold steel pits better. I can tell that I do like the look of them a little better--with a few notable exceptions. some of the dogs on the site looked like the would be weak nerved. I know that is hard to tell from a picture, and it is very likely that it wwas just a bad pose, but it caught my eye. It is hard to tell proportions, etc from pictures. a weird pose can mess everything up. you know what they say though, the proof is in the pudding! go check it out--if they aren't breeding until 2006, then you have some time. Joseph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAmericanPUP Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='Lucky Chaos'][quote name='AllAmericanPUP']i like lady fire fox, she looks good there is something about lady hawke that I dont like ..i guess it's her head..a lil too mmm square i guess you would say?? but she's nice lookin lady tessa looks good :) definately alot closer to you than Cold steel pits :lol: i like that CD pits has only bred once in the 20 years they have had APBT's...they look like a great breeder :D[/quote] Yeah I'm not a big fan of her, even if she is the mother of the other two! I especially like Fire Fox, I'm hoping she's the one they breed. What I'm looking for is much more of an "old time" dog. They do look finer boned then even most ADBA dogs but they're very leggy bitches. I absolutely LOVE Cold Steel pits but they're all the way in Florida. If you look at the majority of their dogs too they're small, no more then 50 lbs. [url]http://www.coldsteelpits.com/[/url] I don't mind a solid dog, but I don't want anything larger then 50 lbs personally. The dogs do look thin, but they're not thin from being hungry. If you look you can see pure muscle on them, would you call a human athlete thin? The dogs work, they're not AKC or UKC dogs.[/quote] a true APBT is suppose to be small, no more than 50lbs, the majority of them are in the 30-40 range though. :D (as you know..just puttin that out there for those who dont know) in a dream world where there was no overpopulation I would love to have a cold steel pit dog :iloveyou: when are you gettin the puppy?? this year? next year?? you must post tons and tons of pics! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phez718 Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 [quote name='Lucky Chaos']What I'm looking for is much more of an "old time" dog. They do look finer boned then even most ADBA dogs but they're very leggy bitches. I absolutely LOVE Cold Steel pits but they're all the way in Florida. If you look at the majority of their dogs too they're small, no more then 50 lbs. [url]http://www.coldsteelpits.com/[/url][/quote] Don't give up on Cold Steel yet, Steph. Remember you still might be able to go down to Florida next summer and check em out. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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