Guest Anonymous Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I rescued Roxie from the streets about 2 and a half years ago when she was only a few weeks old. I've always said that she has some Doberman Pinscher in her but my brother, who owns 2 golden labs, doesn't seem to think so. Therefore, I decided where else to settle this than with you guys, the experts. Keep in mind that she's au naturale - her ears were not cropped or taped, her tail was not bobbed, I haven't even had her spayed (yet). Anyway, here are a few pictures of her as she got older: [img]http://server5.uploadit.org/files/TannerMXer-roxtimeline.jpg[/img] So whaddaya think? Doberman or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I think there is some Dobie in there, plus some rottie, and maybe some hound in there as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__crazy_canine__ Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Her profile looked almost like a dachschuand lol but since shes so big... Id say black and tan coonhound because the ears for one are houndish and she seems to be built larger unlike a dobie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mutts4Me Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Erm, yeah... I was think she was a Dachshund until I saw how big she was... So with the coloring and ears, I think Black and Tan Coonhound mixed with something with a very slender face... or else the ever-present possibility of all-around mutt :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolk9s Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 I too was thinking Black and Tan Coonhound. Hey, no time like the present to get that girl of yours spayed, why have her going through the hormonal issues twice a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpeigirl Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Black & Tan Coon hound mix, not sure what she's mixed with but cute dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 [img]http://www.akc.org/images/breeds/blkntan.jpg[/img] definitely black and tan coonhound. maybe mixed with rottie, but maybe not. look at the similarities..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddysMom Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Aaaaaw, she's beautiful!!! My first thought was black & tan coonhound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Thanks for the answers, everybody. I'd never seen a black and tan coonhound before, but after seeing that picture I'd have to agree with you all. Even though, I still see Doberman in the face. She is much bigger than she appears in some of those head shots. Last time I checked, she weighed 77 lbs. I haven't had her spayed yet mainly due to lack of money. I know that might sound like an illigetimate reason, but the male dogs in the house are all newdered and I won't leave Roxie outside without my supervision, so at least I'm not being irresponsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__crazy_canine__ Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Yup money can be a problem sometimes... but there are places that will do cheaper spay&neuter. Most of them require proof of low-income though.... Glad to know youre being responsible about it but please as soon as you can get her spayed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Kat Posted October 16, 2004 Share Posted October 16, 2004 Shes lovely! I thought Black and tan coonhound x dobe when i saw her pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendalyn Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Spaying will be a lot cheaper than having an emergency hysterectomy if she gets pyometra. When I saw her the first thing I saw was Black and Tan Coonhound as well :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I thought she had hound in her, too. Just couldn't put my finger on it. Yep, she looks like a Black and Tan Coonhound, probably mixed with something else, or just three quarters of some other breed. Her face looks a bit too lean to be a B&T, and her ears are not quite as large as the B&T (is that possible? :lol: ). Very beautiful dog, whatever breed! :) Welcome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahstaff Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Going against the tide, I'm going to say she probably does have Dobe in her. An uncropped/undocked Dobe looks a [i]lot[/i] like a Black & Tan, but narrower in the face. The real test is, does she bay? If she bays, she's coonhound. If she doesn't bay, then she isn't. I do agree that you should have her spayed, though. It's important for her health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__crazy_canine__ Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 [quote name='Sarahstaff']An uncropped/undocked Dobe looks a [i]lot[/i] like a Black & Tan, but narrower in the face. [/quote] Well you are right about that. An un-cropped/docked dobie looks MUCH different than one that is, almost like different breeds to me! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baileysmom Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 [quote]If she bays, she's coonhound. If she doesn't bay, then she isn't. [/quote] I agree with pretty much everything here, but jsut wanted to add, that if she doesnt bay that doesnt mean she isnt still part B&T coonhound...... my beagle mix doesnt bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 What do you mean by bay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Sort of a loud, low, long, howl-y, sad sounding bark. (Am I right? We've never had a bay-er) :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zheelah Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Actually, I see a lot of dobermann in here, escpecialy here head. The ears seem longer than the dobies, but uncropped dobies have "strange ears" a lot of the time but her's do look houndish I say houndXdobie mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nancy B Posted October 19, 2004 Share Posted October 19, 2004 Roxie's head and markings look very much like a Dobermans but her body type is very different from a Dobe. She could be a mix of Dobe and Lab....something like that. She could also be a mix of B&T Coonhound and something but I do think her head is more of a Dobe type than a Coonhound type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahstaff Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 [quote name='Baileysmom'][quote]If she bays, she's coonhound. If she doesn't bay, then she isn't. [/quote] I agree with pretty much everything here, but jsut wanted to add, that if she doesnt bay that doesnt mean she isnt still part B&T coonhound...... my beagle mix doesnt bay.[/quote] Beagles aren't bayers the way coonhounds are. I've known many a Beagle mix that doesn't bay, in fact, I've been around plenty of purebred Beagles that I've not heard bay. But I've [i]never[/i] been around a coonhound, mixed or purebred, that doesn't bay. Baying is the "a-ROO a-ROOO" noise that hounds make when on the trail (and sometimes at other times). It's a pretty distinctive noise. All scent hound breeds bay, but some bay more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroura Posted October 20, 2004 Share Posted October 20, 2004 I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say dobe/lab/dacshound... I can see how she looks coonhound, but I'm not sure how common they are where you are, here though they are so uncommon it would have to be some sort of a miracle to find a dog with it in it at the pound. Dacsie would describe the long ears (we have only natural dobes here... thank dog... but none of their ears are that long), lab would describe the body shape (combined with the squareness of a dobe) and dobe would describe the rest. My sister has a lab/dacsie, if she got out with a dobe I'm pretty sure that might be how some of the pups turned out! (She's desexed though!) On the topic of desexing - save HARD!!! Believe me, I know about money problems, but one thing I always managed to do, as it was THE NUMBER ONE thing on my priorities list, was desex my dogs. Even if you have to borrow the money off your mum, do it, you owe it to your girl :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 Okay, I think I understand what 'baying' is now. I used to have a Pointer, so if it's the type of noise [i]they[/i] make when on the trail, I'm very familiar with that. But I can't say I've ever heard Roxie make that kind of noise. The 'a roo-roo' bark description leaves something to the imagination - it'd be nice if I could actually hear what it sounds like. Roxie does make an 'a-roo-roo' noise, but it's low-pitched and only comes when she's playing. On the rare occasion that she howls, it's always brought forth when other dogs around her are already howling. When she gets the scent of a rodent or another animal, she'll sniff like crazy for awhile, then leap into the air while letting out an ear-shattering, high-pitched bark. She does this a few times until realizing that the scent is out of her reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 well. its not really a pointer noise. The bay is unique to hounds. I have a foxhound. The bay sounds kinda like a cross between a howl, and a long drawn out bark. Hounds bay in a certain tonal ranges, because they carry far in the wind. The purpose of the bay is to alert the hunter that the prey has been found. A short, clipped bark wont carry long distances. The bay carries a long way. IE my foxhound would bay if encountering and cornering a fox. Foxes are fast, human beings on feet couldnt keep up with them or the dogs. Foxes are hunted on horseback. so the dogs could be quite a distance away from the hunter when the quarry is cornered. Thus the bay. the tone is carried long distances on the wind. its a unique sound, not to be confused with a wolf howl, or a coyote yip/howl. the wolf howl carries long distances as well, and the bay is actually derived from it. However, not all hounds bay. especially mixes. it depends on circumstances and scent, and hunting instinct. a mix might never bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True_Pits Posted October 21, 2004 Share Posted October 21, 2004 I think Dobie and possibly Rottie or Lab. Her profile where it says 1 year old looks like that of a Dobie, Dobies have hound ears when they are natural. Her body is kind of like a Rottie or other bigger built breed. Thats a common cross around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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