Horsefeathers! Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0YQAAAIYfVzyPoHbo*VO*k6YkVsjsui1KYGfqoPb3PGet0mEYsc71EksSfApXuugKjHdt1Ms4!cD27pQV8nrn8Vh1Jhp2wswyWX0yeLo5t9d9eOaYgyyxKZz4x4bs7X9inMY8rVtfq!D6vFgssAQgqA/crying%20girl.gif?dc=4675436072349453090[/img] Perry has hemorrhagic enteritis(?) and Simon has... well, diarrhea and vomiting, but is not bleeding like Perry was. A thorough search of the yard has turned up nothing out of the ordinary. We just cannot, for the life of us, figure out what is making these dogs sick. Rocco seems to be improving, but Perry is spending another night at the vet clinic and Simon is staying there tonight as well. [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0XQDdAtwdpp8aL9hNK8RP64ui!zjH56mA!dqQQVcp7lq495ZgCn7iCositkqzDUQ5Qnl9YWC3Noq!e1FBp3Wnj*ex2ttgi2L28RCAmjGTMlqtZCW810NITcWo81FAyeILJCwBYudewp4/give%20up.gif?dc=4675483731229224342[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Oh dear HF! I'm so sorry! :cry: More prayers commin your way.... :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 OH HF!!! I am SOOOOO sorry. Poor doggers.... could the water be contaminated in some way? From the hurricane? do you and hubby feel ok? do any of the other dogs seem sick? Maybe try boiling the water first, then letting it cool? my thoughts and good vibes going out to you. :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefeathers! Posted September 8, 2004 Author Share Posted September 8, 2004 Courtnek, they all get ONLY bottled distilled water. It's been several months since any of them had any tap water. We do wonder if maybe there might have been something in the standing water left after this last hurricane. If that were so, I would think more dogs would be sick, but who knows? :-? Scratching my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
courtnek Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 I think that would depend on both whether all the dogs drank the standing water, and the internal immunity of the dogs in question. I asked because I have heard of things like this before, with hurricanes and tornado's. The water gets tainted somehow. Is there still alot of standing water? You could possibly bottle some of it and take it in for testing for bacteria and such. That's the only common denominator I could think of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarahmyjoy Posted September 8, 2004 Share Posted September 8, 2004 Im sorry HF best wishes, thoughts and prayers to all of ya {{{HUGS}}} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Bitch Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 My fingers are crossed for you HF and my thoughts are with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smooshie Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 fingers and paws crossed here for the speedy recovery of your babies!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokipups Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 HF, keeping my fingers crossed for you too :( . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackieMaya Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I'm so sorry your babies are so sick! Jackie and Maya and I have our fingers and paws crossed for a quick and complete recovery! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowie-the-Pooh Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 HF....I'm so sorry! :( I don't know what to say...we'll be sending prayers your way! (Sorry this post is so short, Dogo is down or something and keeps freezing :-? ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotten_two Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 geeez! keeping you and pups in our thoughts and prayers! [img]http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/17/17_1_10.gif[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Kat Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 HF you really are having such a bad time of it. *hugs*. With this hurricane I am guessing that a lot of birds would have been dislodged creating more activity and therefore more droppings. There is a possibility when you had the dogs out that they licked their feet and licked bird droppings from their feet. Now birds are carriers of all sorts of nasty pathogens including e-coli. It sounds as if your doggers could have picked up a coloform infection which is a nasty form of colitis and food poisoning typified by bloody diarrhoea and sever vomitting. I hope that your vet gets the infections under control and that your doggers are feeling more at themselves really soon. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carolk9s Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 HF, I am hoping mightily that your babies are returning to good health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefeathers! Posted September 9, 2004 Author Share Posted September 9, 2004 Thanks so much, everyone. Kat, your theory makes more sense than anything we've been able to come up with. Here's my longwinded update before I go and slash my wrists... It's pretty much an epidemic. Perry came home today from the clinic. He hadn't blown out all day and his appetite is back with a vengeance, though we aren't overloading his system. Perry is bouncing around like a new dog. The vet sent him home today in hopes that Perry would have a normal stool. He's been walked and walked and walked at the clinic today and never pooped (no diarrhea which should be a GOOD thing, right?). He wasn't home 30 minutes when he had another attack of diarrhea. As long as he acts like he's feeling ok, we'll just wait and take him back tomorrow and see what the vet says. Perry is still on antibiotics (as well as Rocco and Simon). Simon is still at the clinic. The vet wanted to keep him one more night for observation. He seems to be feeling better, but Doc wants to see if the food we fed him earlier will stay down and if it doesn't, he wants to be able to have a look at what comes back up/out (mmm, the glamour of vet work). Several of my other dogs now have diarrhea. No one else is puking yet that we've seen, but we definitely have an epidemic of some sort. Doc said it's definitely bacterial since "it" seems to respond to antibiotics. If this continues through the weekend, or we get new cases, he's going to send a fecal sample off to the lab Monday for a culture to see if we're dealing with something like salmonella. I don't know what to do. There is no way to isolate the sick dogs' potty area from the others and there's no way to effectively scoop up diarrhea. Even if we identify a pathogen, I have no clue how to "fix" it. I mean, won't it still be in the yard? I know of no way to effectively sanitize grass and sand. In addition to this, we are facing the potential threat of hurricane Ivan and having to think of what in the world to do with all these sick dogs and wonder if the last hurricane is what washed whatever "it" is up in our yard. We are exhausted. I appreciate the good thoughts. I hate to seem like a hit and run poster and will try to catch up on all the other posts soon. I just wanted to update before pulling out every stitch of hair on my head. Well, sh*t. In the time it took me to type "no one else is puking," Devin just barfed on my couch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooeydog Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 HF, do you know if there was any runover of sewage nearby where you are? When our area flooded last fall, we had a lot of oil and sewage in the water from the pumping station and people's oil tanks floating out or breaking open and leaking. Even in areas that hadn't been under the water, you could see a slick of oil over the grass, and it took several good rains to get it out, so it seems that it worked its way through the soil. Just wondering if that couldn't be what happened to your guys. As far as disinfecting your yard, dunno, maybe get one of those weed sprayers you hook to your house (the ones that hold just solution, and when the hose is on, the solution is squirted out with the water) and fill it with bleach, then use the hose to water down the yard after each trip outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefeathers! Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 Goo, we've been wondering if maybe the hurricane passing through might have washed up some kind of sewage. It's definitely something to think about. We haven't seen any evidence of it, but it would be hard to tell just by looking. I'm sure it's possible I initially thought that hosing down the yard with bleach solution would be useless since the ground is absorbent and whatever is in it can wash back to the surface, but I'm just about to the point of saying screw it. I have one of the bottles you're talking about and I think I'm going to bleach the h*ll out of our yard. At this point, I'm willing to try anything from bleaching the yard to exorcism. Thanks. I think I'm going to do the bleaching thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Oh geese! I'm glad to hear that Perry and Simon are doing somewhat better! OK, but now I'm confused. If you (or someone else) could go through the list of all of your dogs and if they are sick or not, that would help me. So far (I think) Perry, Simon, and Rocco are sick, right? How many dogs do you have? If you don't have time don't worry about it, I know you have alot on your plate right now. Prayers for healthy doggies and Hurricane Ivan coming your way :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefeathers! Posted September 10, 2004 Author Share Posted September 10, 2004 ESS, I have 10 dogs. 2 Standard Poodles (Perry & Pauly) 1 Toy Poodle (Peanut) 3 Lhasa Apsos (Devin, Missy & Fred) 1 Black Lab (Tucker) 1 Schnauzer (Simon) 1 Chihuahua (Chico) 1 Doberman Pinscher (Rocco) Rocco was sick first, then Perry, then Simon. The others who are showing symptoms are Devin (puking), Tucker (diarrhea) and Peanut (diarrhea). Don't know about the rest yet. I know this much... I've never been so glad in all my life to see a normal turd as I was when Pauly went outside earlier. :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESSlover Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Whoa! 10 dogs! :o I'm sure they get so much loving anyway though! I can imagine how happy you must have been to see that solid turd! Thanks for the list :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Kat Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Heres hoping that today brings better news for you. One thing: when you have the dogs out wash their paws well by dipping them in a bucket of water or using a sponge so that they can't lick any nasty pathogens off their paw pads. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Cassie Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 HF, I am so sorry for what you are going through :( this must be taking quite a toll on you as well with all the running to the vets and the worry. I hope every thing clears up for you quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouseatthebusstop Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 so sorry H/F I will send possative thoughts to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Oh man! HF, sending positive thoughts to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellieangel Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 Oh sheesh HF my thoughts are with you and your guys xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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