sixjollydogs Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Unless you have a REAL story for the National Enquirer....the dog may do the deed...the pups pay the price....and the owner's of both are the ones I would call irresponsible. (speaking of under-the-fence breeding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 [quote name='Peng1zrule']sixjollydogs, i appreciated your statistics, and they seemed optimistic statistics, to me. right now, at my local shelter, fifty dogs go in every week (forty cats, on average) I read the paper every week for a month, as it has the weekly turn ins. Out of all the pets turned in over a month, ONE dog was adopted out. just one. and not a single cat. two hundred dogs went in, one came out...it was heartbreaking...and partly because dogs can and do get pregnant through fences.[/quote] So if you want to do things to change that try any of these options Run an ad for the adoptable dogs/cats in your local newspaper's classifieds Get digital photos of the animals and post them at [url]www.petfinder.org[/url] along with a description Get local civic groups to sponser a pet of their choice for adoption on a weekly or monthly basis Volunteer at the shelter and take animals to adoption days at local pet supply stores or even malls Make sure the shelter has hours it is open when people can come and see dogs and cats for adoption Volunteer to temperament test (learn how if you don't know how) and also to work on training with shelter dogs to make them more adoptable Promote spay neuter of all adopted pets and the parents of discarded pups and kittens (I know a shelter that offers a free spay and neuter to people who dump pups or kittens!) Get going with fund raising to create a low cost spay neuter clinic or a better more accessible shelter There is lots you can do from the inside and the outside of the shelter world to reduce kill stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shannon_C Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 [b][color=indigo][/color][size=6][/size] I for one had my Bullmastiff neutered in September :o but i had no choice and the reason for this is he had a testicle that was still up inside his scrotum...which could have caused problems later on, however saying that i would still have gotten him done as it prevents cancer in later life. Even though i am a considerate owner of my dogs, they would all be spayed/neutered eventually. My little Westie cross was neutered when he was 8 years old, (now 13 years) the vet told me the same thing about cancer so i decided to get him done. It doesnt stop is sexual behaviour though towards my 6 year old spayed Border Collie :lol:. My friend had a Kerry Blue Terrier that got cancer and they were told that if he had been neutered he would not have gotten it! The males being dominant are the ones to watch, (unless a breeder)..i myself think its wise to get all pets neutered and spayed. [/b] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixjollydogs Posted May 24, 2002 Share Posted May 24, 2002 Hulk I found a good article that may be useful to you. It is a research article from the US CDC (Center for Disease Control). They did a study on dog bites and dog fatalities. According to the report, 80% of dogs referred to a trainer for aggressive behavior were intact male dogs. ...and over 70% of the dog bites were intact males. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 I have decided to have my 2 Pits neutered. I am not doing this for any reason accept this: By having Hollywood & Hercules fixed I will be putting them in less of a compromising position for them. I asked myself that question, why would I put my 2 best friends in any type of compromising position. I won't. -Hollywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julie45 Posted July 14, 2002 Share Posted July 14, 2002 well i am sorry to say this but i have 2 dogs and they have both been done. i delive it was the right thing to do. i also have a cat and she has been done as well,my partner said he is glad he only has 2 legs or he would be in trouble as well :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted July 15, 2002 Share Posted July 15, 2002 [quote name='sixjollydogs']Hulk I found a good article that may be useful to you. It is a research article from the US CDC (Center for Disease Control). They did a study on dog bites and dog fatalities. According to the report, 80% of dogs referred to a trainer for aggressive behavior were intact male dogs. ...and over 70% of the dog bites were intact males.[/quote] Yep most common dog to bite is an intact male dog with NO obedience training - interesting that last little factor isn't it? :roll: and also the fact that no breed in particular is immune from having untrained testosterone :wink: being the impetus for biting behavior! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 [quote name='Anonymous'] Some men refuse to neuter their pets because of their own problems on the subject of sexuality. [/quote] LOL I've heard that too, in fact there was an absolutely classic quote about men and castration of pets on the web somewhere- I'll dig it out and post it one day. Also re: litter dominance/fighting. Can anyone tell me if the "runt" of a litter is born first, last, or in between and what is the main dominance factor, birth order or physical size? I ask because Grandad had 2 male dachshunds and one was the runt, both left entire, the bigger (and maybe not older) dog was the dominant one. I know there are lots of situations where the small Westie reigns over the gigantic Rotty... but with related dogs what's the story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 There was definitely a runt in the dachshund litter. The breeders rang Grandad after he'd got the first dog (Oscar) and asked him if he'd like the runt (Fritz) otherwise he'd be put down the next day. (is that standard practice?) Grandad being a softy, agreed. :D Neither dog died of cancer and they were both entire (and not bred from BTW). I thought maybe Oscar was top dog because he was the first one to call Grandad's "home", but I don't know how valid that is- when Rinny (GSD) moved in with us, he instantly became top dog over BK, who's much younger. They're about the same size and neutered, but I thought it weird BK wasn't more territorial. I still think if you're not going to breed from a dog then you should have it neutered, but in the end it's up to the individual. K- I think the rec. age for neutering is 6 months min. in Australia? Though that may not help you in clog-land ;) (from a fellow clog-wog) :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bk_blue Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 sasha, I know the runt is the smallest (one of the few things I know about breeding!), it makes sense now if the older, larger dog was more dominant over the younger, smaller dog. Thanks! 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Sasha here is my take on the 'runt ' of a litter... A female 'accepts' a male so many days for mating. So there for pups are conceived in those days at various times. So it is safe to say that the 'runt ' is the last conceived pup of the mating. Therefore he/she would be the less developed pup or smaller pup than the littermates. But over time would grow to be as big or bigger than the others. Kind of like a premature child..... :wink: This is just my .02 and i have talked to vets and explained it and several agree. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aroura Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 Great choice hulk! Just wanna add, at least your dogs will be at rest. Unless used as a stud dog, an intact dog has a crazy sex drive that drives them mad their whole life, especially when there is a female in heat around! Not many people consider this when making the choice to nueter or not, I personally think that if the dog is not intended for stud then neutering is the only humane way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted August 25, 2002 Share Posted August 25, 2002 [quote name='Aroura']Great choice hulk! Just wanna add, at least your dogs will be at rest. Unless used as a stud dog, an intact dog has a crazy sex drive that drives them mad their whole life, especially when there is a female in heat around! Not many people consider this when making the choice to nueter or not, I personally think that if the dog is not intended for stud then neutering is the only humane way to go![/quote] Any if anyone wants a clue about males and females that are intact and longing for each other :wink: let me assure you the 'singing' of sad love songs at 3 AM is NOT amusing nor is the cleverness of the two at getting together at the least opportune moment unless you are fanatical about keeping them apart. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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