Guest Anonymous Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 I would like to know if anyone's use this brand and the results? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Have not heard of it, what's in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 I am feeding my 4 months old Westie on Avoderm Puppy ([url]www.breeders-choice.com[/url]). I was wondering if this is good for Westie, known to have skin problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Here are the ingredients they list: Select Ingredients Wheat Flour, Beef Meal, Ground Rice, Dried Avocado Meal, Soybean Oil, Lecithin, Brewers Dried Yeast, Flax Seed, Herring Meal, Dried Kelp, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Whey, Cheese Meal, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Potassium Chloride, Monosodium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, DL-Alpha Tocopheryl Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), Zinc Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Copper Sulfate, Amino Acid Chelates of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, D-Biotin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate (Source of Vitamin B1), Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement. Unless wheat flour has some special properties for skin problems I would say the food is not paticularly good, not that its horrible, I just think you could do better. If dried avocado meal is helpful get a high quality food with a good protien as the first ingredient and just add some fresh avocado to the dogs diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Thanks. Any other brands do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 What about the Avovderm Lamb & Rice: Select Ingredients Lamb, Lamb Broth, Rice, Lamb Liver, Dried Eggs, Flax Seed, Lecthin, Guar Gum, Calcium Carbonate, Kelp, Avocado Oil, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Choline Chloride, Carrageenan, Zinc Sulfate, Iron Sulfate, Vitamin E Supplement, Copper Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Niacin Supplement, Sodium Selenite, Thiamin Mononitrate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Pantothenate, Calcium Iodate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Vitamin A Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Folic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfate Complex (source of Vitamin K), Biotin, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 That looks better. Also to add to other possible foods to explore: Wysong and Mmillenia - Solid Gold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-pop Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 I don't know what's good, but Old Roy is supposed to be BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbit Posted March 15, 2003 Share Posted March 15, 2003 Lamb may be the culprit for containing a high amount of Ash. Too much Ash is known to cause calcification of the kidneys (Kidney stones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Old Roy? What's this? My vet told me westie is susceptible to skin allergies, so avoid chicken/beef. Any comments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 [quote name='Wes']Old Roy? What's this? My vet told me westie is susceptible to skin allergies, so avoid chicken/beef. Any comments?[/quote] Unfortunately vets are not great nutrition advisers, in general. He most likely said to avoid chicken and beef and use lamb because lamb is considered a low allergen food. It is not a good idea to use this right off the bat or without doing your research. There are also many other foods, both chicken and beef, or other (ie duck, fish) that are good for allergy prone dogs, depending on what they are allergic to. Is your dog having problems? What does he eat now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pets4ever Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 I used Avoderm a long time ago when it first came out in the eighties- it was supposed to be good for skin and coats cuz of the avocado. It sure doesn't have much meat in it now I read the ingredients now! Yikes! The lamb one does seem better. I have heard that allergic dogs do well on certain brands that contain primarily fish and potato. I don't know the brands that have this, probably several do. I've seen them on sites or in catalogs but my brain is not working.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 He's itching (although not very bad at the moment) and his front paws are very pinkish (looks slightly inflamed). However, he is eating fine. I just want to be sure of the right diet before the problem gets worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Any comments about Eagle Pack's Premium Select then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 Most of Eagle Packs' foods have corn and wheat in them. They are a decent food if you like the ingredients, although IMO there are better foods out there (more meat for your money) that are better priced. For you though... avoid ingredients that are common allergens: wheat soy corn dried egg product refined grains including white rice, white flour, flour Also avoid sugar! (not really an allergen so much as that it increases yeast growths) Some foods have sugar so your dog gets addicted to it. It may also be listed as corn syrup, etc. What foods has he eaten? Since he is on a beef now, I would go for chicken, fish, duck, or turkey instead, unless he had problems before on one of those. There are many great foods especially for allergy prone dogs. Wysong, California Natural, and Innova all have some very simple dog foods that really give you much more control over what you are feeding. Wellness and Natural Balance both have lines for allergies - Wellness Whitefish and Sweet Potato, Natural Balance Duck and Potato. Both of these lines are very good, and all their foods are free of common allergens as well. I would also give him a good quality oil. Some dogs do have problems with flax, but if your dog doesn't, it's a great source of Omega 3 and 6. Other choices are salmon oil, but it's expensive and harder to get. Cod liver oil is great too, easy to find, reasonably priced, and because it is a deep cold water fish, has less pollutants. The oils will help moisturize his skin inside out, reduce itching and promote healthy skin and hair growth. I would also feed a food or treats with real oatmeal in it. Oatmeal works from within as well as topically for itching and skin problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 16, 2003 Share Posted March 16, 2003 If your dog does not have penut allergy you can feed penut butter oatmeal as a treat - make some plain oatmeal maybe 1/4 cup, melt/mix a fair size dollup of pb (not a high salt high suger variety) into the oatmeal, let it cool a bit and feed. My doggies love it, takes them a while to eat because its sticky, does good things for the coat as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 How do you melt the PB? Those sound pretty tasty...for me too! LOL Thanks for that idea! My dog loves peanut butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 If you mix the pb in while the oatmeal is still hot it usually melts up nicely as you mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicat613 Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Oh!! You cook the oatmeal! I get it! We all hate cooked oatmeal in this house so I always think of it as straight out of the package. Oatmeal is already cooked so you don't have to recook it to feed it, just to rehydrate it a little. I think I'll just melt pb and mix in oats and see what happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogPaddle Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 Let me know how it turns out, you may want to avoid the instant flavoured oatmeal cause of all the suger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 I thot that dogs should not be eating peanuts, so about the peanut butter.... btw, any commercial brand is alright (eg Skippy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Anonymous Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 I am looking either at Eaglepack Premium Select or SolidGold's Hundchen Flocken Puppy Food. Any advice? Thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiger Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 From a previous thread, here's the Top "10" list again: The old Favorites: Azmira Classic Back to Basics California Natural, Innova Canida Eagle Pack, Holistic Select Flint River Ranch Hund-N-Flocken, Mmillennia Limited Diets Duck and Potato Natural Balance, Ultra Premium Lifespan Pinnacle Prime Life PHD Canine Growth and Maintenance Showbound Naturals Timberwolf Organics Wellness Super 5 Mix Wysong Maintenance New for 2003: Artemis Bench & Field Burns Drs. Foster and Smith Go! Natural Royal Canin Prairie Verus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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