Pups available from time to time

[Guest Anonymous]

Avalonia Boerboele will have pups available regularly. See the parents of the current litter at [url]http://www.avaloniaboerboele.co.za[/url]
We are based in South-Africa and export anywhere.
E-Mail us at [email][email protected][/email][/b]

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='avaloniaboerboele']Avalonia Boerboele will have pups available regularly. See the parents of the current litter at [url]http://www.avaloniaboerboele.co.za[/url]
We are based in South-Africa and export anywhere.
E-Mail us at [email][email protected][/email][/b][/quote]

Well I looked at the site and saw no evidence of health testing done on the parents and saw a 9 month old bitch whelping her first litter at an age when no concientious breeder would breed any type of dog let alone a giant breed that is still a maturing pup herself.
It also looks like the pups are pen raised outdoors :cry:
Based on the adult dog's pictures with their extremely straight rear structures I would expect patella problems to be a possibility for them and their pups. Who knows about hips, elbows and other problems as the information is not listed and the dam for one is too young to even test for problems like hip displasia.

[GizmoRedNosePit]

VERY NICE DOGS!!

I love the pic of all the puppys! Especially the one in the back round just chillin enjoying the sun!!

Great looking parents! Good Job! :D

[Guest Anonymous]

REPLY TO GUEST WITH THE EVER SO JEALOUS ATTITUDE

First of all - The female's photo was taken after she had pups (obvious). The writing above the photo says 82.4% at 9 months meaning she was appraised at 9 months - NOT BRED WITH. (Again obvious without trying to read hidden sinister plans i might have with my dogs!!!!!).

Ag shame - regarding the "clever" comment about some sickness??? My dear friend, these are BOERBOELS - do you know them???? They were bred to defend our forefathers against leopards and lions. It is known that many a adult male Boerboel (wich can weigh up to 90kg-all muscles and NO fat) killed a leopard on his own - quickly!!!!!!!!! So they dont have any fancy diseases, only hd like 98% of all dog species. Oh and by the way - Both the male and female on my site were tested and both their hips were certified CLEAN of hd by the SABT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lastly the pups are kept in a kennel measuing 7m x 7m =49m2
I had 10 pups in this litter - they will definately not run around on my 10 000 m2 property risking to be injured by my males protecting my property.
If you dont like this extremely humane, properly planned, developed and professionally run breeding kennel by a serious DOG LOVER, please keep your sour mouth comments to yourself.

To all the other messages thanks for your response. I do would like upbuilding criticism as everyone can learn from somebody elses experience and advice.

AVALONIA BOERBOELE

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote]breeding kennel by a serious DOG LOVER[/quote]

Breeding is a commercial business motiviated by profit. Serious dog lover's don't turn their beloved dogs into money making ventures.

[Guest Anonymous]

That doesnt make sense. If that was the case, all dogs will . In our modern world one cant approach life like in the stone age - you must do everything with a business plan, otherwise you will symply not survive.
I stay in a country ridden with serious crime, 15 min drive from the nearest police station. We have electric fencing surrounding the yard, armed response, alarms etc, etc. Still they broke in. Then i got myself some Boerboels. Its been 5 years now and still nothing. That was what they were bred for - providing protection. Why not allow other people who are dog lovers to experience the same. Now if you do some calculations you will see the cost of this new protection is quite heavy. As all my dogs are registered and not chosen haphazardly, i decided to make the Boerboels pay for themself by breeding with them and selling to screened buyers. A not so profitable business (after only 3 years) by a serious DOG LOVER.

AVALONIA BOERBOELE

[Guest Anonymous]

Very very beautiful dogs! Are they a cross of... a boxer and mastiff? Thats what they look like.

Nicki.. I have to agree with you. Serious dog breeders breed to make breed better and for the love of the breed... not to make money.

[Guest Anonymous]

.....was the case,all dogs will be extinct in a couple of years. In our modern....

[Guest Anonymous]

Boerboele were bred some 300 years out of Mastiff type dogs and some unknown dogs. Its a dog unique to South Africa

AVALONIA BOERBOELE

[Guest Anonymous]

Well they sure are beautiful dogs! :D I have never even heard of the breed.

off the subject... my friend moved to the U.S. about 4 years ago then her sister came not even a year ago. They used to live in Keneya...s/p

[Guest Anonymous]

A Boerboel is not a Boerboel if he doesn't tolerate children around him. He should also be obedient when punished and submit. But if danger lurks and his or his owners safety is at stake, he will attack fearlessly with disregard for his own life. Boerboels are BIG AND VERY STRONG dogs. If you cant control them, youre in trouble. Imagine training a Boerboel weighing 80kg, capable to jump 2 metre high and reach speeds in excess of 40 kmh, to attack by chasing a person with a safety suit. Such a person will lose his arm in a couple of seconds!! Thats why they should be controllable with a good temperament.

Maybe the dog that you wanted to buy came out of bloodlines that was created by a breeder not using the right temperament dogs???Never buy or breed such a dog.
I have added another picture to my website showing my wifes size to a male ive used in my breeding program. He only weighs about 70 kg! My wife is a complete stranger to him but he allows her to pose for a photo!! Hows that for temperamant from a fully adult male dog. :D :D

If they grow up with other dogs, it should be fine. Just dont introduce an adult Boelboel male to other adult male dogs - no no.

[Guest Anonymous]

To chief Seattle...

If only more people can apply your attitude in their everyday life, the world would be a much better place. Everything is indeed connected by a higher hand. One needs to really let this idea sink through and let it become your own. Too often i have heard people say, "oh, why all this fuss about cruelty to animals ext. its only an animal, it doesnt have a soul and emotions..."
They are so wrong. I have a female boerboel, and I can feel our emotional connection when I look into her eyes, when she rests her head on my lap, when she lovingly licks my face (sorry, im getting carried away here...) The point is, my life is a million times more rich and fulfilling in my relationship with my dog companion. I LOVE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Anonymous]

Because Boerboels are a fairly young dog breed, the SABT (South African Boerboel Breeders Association) states that a Boerboel can only be registerd when it is 9 months or older. It has to be taken to special appraisal meetings where the dog will be evaluated and given a score. Only dogs with a percentage of 70 and higher will then be registered. Good breeding quality is accepted from 80% and upwards. If your dog scores 85% and higher with no hd, hyperplation and entropia/ectropia it is taken up in the stud register.
The dog is evaluated from head to toe involving a lengthy and thorough check.

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='avaloniaboerboele']REPLY TO GUEST WITH THE EVER SO JEALOUS ATTITUDE

[b]I'm not jealous I'm sickened by seeing commercial breeders putting ads up on the web.[/b]

First of all - The female's photo was taken after she had pups (obvious). The writing above the photo says 82.4% at 9 months meaning she was appraised at 9 months - NOT BRED WITH. (Again obvious without trying to read hidden sinister plans i might have with my dogs!!!!!).

[b]YOU showed a picture of a dog labelled 9 months old that has obviously been bred - so what age is the poor outdoor dog?[/b]

Ag shame - regarding the "clever" comment about some sickness??? My dear friend, these are BOERBOELS - do you know them???? They were bred to defend our forefathers against leopards and lions. It is known that many a adult male Boerboel (wich can weigh up to 90kg-all muscles and NO fat) killed a leopard on his own - quickly!!!!!!!!! So they dont have any fancy diseases, only hd like 98% of all dog species. Oh and by the way - Both the male and female on my site were tested and both their hips were certified CLEAN of hd by the SABT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[b]If the breed has hip displasia its only because breeders who don't care happily perpetuate it. As for the problem I mentioned being a 'fancy disease' your remark simply shows your lack of knowledge of dog structure and health.[/b]


Lastly the pups are kept in a kennel measuing 7m x 7m =49m2
I had 10 pups in this litter - they will definately not run around on my 10 000 m2 property risking to be injured by my males protecting my property.
If you dont like this extremely humane, properly planned, developed and professionally run breeding kennel by a serious DOG LOVER, please keep your sour mouth comments to yourself.

[b]The words 'professionally run' and 'dog lover' are not synonymous. In fact I think they are antonyms.[/b]

To all the other messages thanks for your response. I do would like upbuilding criticism as everyone can learn from somebody elses experience and advice.

AVALONIA BOERBOELE[/quote]

[b]My advise is put up the proper ages of your dogs on your site. Show proof of all the health testing done, show how you screen buyers to make sure they will be proper homes for your pups and stop making your dogs 'earn their way' by breeding them in outdoor pens. Dogs are not farm animals to be raised like that.[/b]

[Guest Anonymous]

I have to say your dogs are beautiful! And I'm sure you are a dog lover, but guest does have a point. Breeders should only breed to make the breed better. Example- the chow breed has serious aggression proublems. If I were to breed chows then I would want to breed to try and make the breed less aggresive. Or the weimeiner have bad allgery proublems so I would try my best to make the breed with fewer allgeries.

Then a breeder should do their homework (like guest said) health scans, when to breed the bitch and when not to, and what would happen if only three of the puppies sold out of a eight pup litter.

Then the breeder should also only breed for not a, money making buisness, but for the love of the breed and to show the breed. Money should be the last thing on your mind if you want to breed.

And you should be able to sell the pups without having to go to the internet to try and sell.

[Guest Anonymous]

To continue my "conversation" with guest
Halo guest, slept well last night?

[b]I'm not jealous I'm sickened by seeing commercial breeders putting ads up on the web. [/b]

Mmmm - dont think you heard of Boerboels before. So my ad must have done something right?

[b]YOU showed a picture of a dog labelled 9 months old that has obviously been bred - so what age is the poor outdoor dog? [/b]

Come on, that is not so difficult. Repeat after me - VASVAT TRIXIE 82.4% AT 9 MONTHS = AN APPRAISAL POINT OF 82.4% AT 9 MONTHS OF AGE. If you repeat this about 100 times, maybe you will understand. Trixie is 15 months old now, thus 13 when she gave birth the fist time - Oh Oh? :-?

[b]If the breed has hip displasia its only because breeders who don't care happily perpetuate it. As for the problem I mentioned being a 'fancy disease' your remark simply shows your lack of knowledge of dog structure and health[/b]

I cant argue your first sentence but try to rectify the problem. I dont know of any Boerboel diagnosed with your "fancy" disease. I respect your knowledge that you might have, but to make a comment about dogs youve never seen, let alone heard of, is a bit arrogant.


[b]My advise is put up the proper ages of your dogs on your site. Show proof of all the health testing done, show how you screen buyers to make sure they will be proper homes for your pups and stop making your dogs 'earn their way' by breeding them in outdoor pens. Dogs are not farm animals to be raised like that.[/b]


I will not prove myself to people who appointed themselves as guardians of dogs or anything else for that matter. I dont want to sell millions of dogs, but is trying to get the outside world to now about this magnificent breed. If somebody is interested, all the relevant info will be sent to them. My dogs WILL be raised outdoors FULL STOP. Imagine a couple of Boerboels roaming through your house any time they want to. Unhiegenic and unpractical - if you can work that out for yourself? Why not let them enjoy our hot, sunny climate? Again i think your comment is arrogant because you have no clue to how my kennels look.You have not asked me how they are socialised etc. My dogs love me and visa versa - They dont need nappies and jerseys to survive life and i dont feel guilty if they stay outside. Its not cruel, its normal life!!

To Beagle88 - your comments taken. Ive explained why im selling dogs. Making money isnt priority one. The internet is the modern communication tool, not the street corner or local newspaper. Just look at all the fun we have with one simple add!! :o

Maybe ill earn plenty of paws only on this post.

[Guest Anonymous]

Well if you need the internet to sell your puppies then you are doing something wrong. Thats how so many dogs end up in pounds. If I wanted a puppy of yours I'm not flying all the way to Africa. So you send me a puppy. I get it and it has a tempermant that is layed back, not active like you told me. Hmm.. I don't like this pup. And off to the pound it goes. See what I'm saying. You cannot sell pups over the internet.

and you can't get paws because you are a guest.

[Guest Anonymous]

[quote name='avaloniaboerboele']To continue my "conversation" with guest
Halo guest, slept well last night?

[b]I'm not jealous I'm sickened by seeing commercial breeders putting ads up on the web. [/b]

Mmmm - dont think you heard of Boerboels before. So my ad must have done something right?

[b]YOU showed a picture of a dog labelled 9 months old that has obviously been bred - so what age is the poor outdoor dog? [/b]

Come on, that is not so difficult. Repeat after me - VASVAT TRIXIE 82.4% AT 9 MONTHS = AN APPRAISAL POINT OF 82.4% AT 9 MONTHS OF AGE. If you repeat this about 100 times, maybe you will understand. Trixie is 15 months old now, thus 13 when she gave birth the fist time - Oh Oh? :-?

[b]If the breed has hip displasia its only because breeders who don't care happily perpetuate it. As for the problem I mentioned being a 'fancy disease' your remark simply shows your lack of knowledge of dog structure and health[/b]

I cant argue your first sentence but try to rectify the problem. I dont know of any Boerboel diagnosed with your "fancy" disease. I respect your knowledge that you might have, but to make a comment about dogs youve never seen, let alone heard of, is a bit arrogant.


[b]My advise is put up the proper ages of your dogs on your site. Show proof of all the health testing done, show how you screen buyers to make sure they will be proper homes for your pups and stop making your dogs 'earn their way' by breeding them in outdoor pens. Dogs are not farm animals to be raised like that.[/b]


I will not prove myself to people who appointed themselves as guardians of dogs or anything else for that matter. I dont want to sell millions of dogs, but is trying to get the outside world to now about this magnificent breed. If somebody is interested, all the relevant info will be sent to them. My dogs WILL be raised outdoors FULL STOP. Imagine a couple of Boerboels roaming through your house any time they want to. Unhiegenic and unpractical - if you can work that out for yourself? Why not let them enjoy our hot, sunny climate? Again i think your comment is arrogant because you have no clue to how my kennels look.You have not asked me how they are socialised etc. My dogs love me and visa versa - They dont need nappies and jerseys to survive life and i dont feel guilty if they stay outside. Its not cruel, its normal life!!

To Beagle88 - your comments taken. Ive explained why im selling dogs. Making money isnt priority one. The internet is the modern communication tool, not the street corner or local newspaper. Just look at all the fun we have with one simple add!! :o

Maybe ill earn plenty of paws only on this post.[/quote]

Interestingly enough yes I knew about Boerboels before you posted your advertising for pups always available - that is why I looked at your ad. I know what they are used for in South Africa too and its not the hunting of dangerous wild animals.
Its seems your breeding standard is as bad as I thought and you seem so proud that you are breeding underage bitches and think that is an accomplishment :cry:
I happen to know a great deal about the structure of dogs - the structure of your dogs is a 'straight rear' ie very little rear angulation which is a common problem in many breeds and *may* even be required by your breed standard - none of that will change the fact that this sort of structure is very prone to patellar luxation - its an unavoidable structural fault in this kind of skeletal configuration.
You come across as exactly what is described very nicely all over the internet as a 'puppy mill' not as a responsible breeder. You raise your dogs outdoors in pens, you sell to anyone, you breed because you want the money, you advertise over the internet trolling for unwitting customers who think want attack dogs, you breed bitches at the earliest opportunity, you 'always have pups', your pups are unsocialized - gee all that from one ad without even trying to get the information...
The responsible breeders I know in most any breed don't even have to advertise - word of mouth of their dogs and accomplishments brings them more potential good homes than they will ever need. If they did need to find more their breed club would happily refer people to them.
Pups are cute - they always are - buying from unscrupulous breeders is what gets so many buyers and their pets into trouble.
Like I said you could improve your site in many ways but apparently you are happy being a commercial dog producer.

[Guest Anonymous]

:lol: Awesome job guest! :lol:

:evil: Avaloniaboerboele: :evil:
:evil: Cropping and docking is illegal in your country and all countries except United States of America. :evil:The only way you got this done is by banding the tails. :evil: If you crop your dogs ears they are is serious pain. :evil: This is why you are selling over the internet. :evil: it has been proven in many labratories over here that breeding under age 3 can be fatal or leave the dog in very bad condition. :evil: It can also stunt growth, :evil: which your bitch probably is. :evil: You shouldn't be selling to people over here who know nothing of the breed. :evil: You are lucky i dont report you to the aspca of your country. :evil: plese take my concerns seriously as i am around the best breeders all the time :evil:

[Guest Anonymous]

Looks like guest has made up his/her mind - so no reason to continue arguing with people trying to shoot other people down. If you dont like me because of your assumptious attitude - so be it. The wild animal thing you blew up into a melodrama just to make your own futile case a litlle stronger.My website will be upgraded much later in time when i have all my facts ready according to my breading plan.

I HAVE A CLEAN CONSCIENCE ABOUT WHAT IM DOING AND INVITE EVERYONE IF THEY EVER ARE IN THIS COUNTRY TO VISIT AND SEE THIS BEAUTIFUL BREED

Puppies411 Have you checked photos on my website? No cropping of ears there??????We dock the puppies tails at 2 days, and it is legal.I breed females once they come into their second season, then they are between 13 and 16 months old.They are fully grown by then and it definately doesnt stump their growth.They are then bred with every second or third season. Boerboels lifespan is 10 years.You too havent read all the posts and assume the worst - good job there guest, whip everybody up emotionally.

Mei-Mei please read all the replies and not one only, youl will get a answer there.

TO PUT AN END TO THIS MATTER - IM A KNOWN AND REPUTABLE BREEDER IN THIS COUNTRY. I KNOW WHAT IM DOING AND DONT ASSUME BAD THING OF OTHER PEOPLE/BREEDERS. I DONT BREED WITH SICK AND DISEASE-PRONE ANIMALS. I DEFINATELY LOVE MY ANIMALS MORE THAN 90% OF PEOPLE OUT THERE.LET MY DOGS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.
[url]http://www.avaloniaboerboele.co.za[/url]

[Guest Anonymous]

I am not going to argue about all of this because i dont know much information about this whole situation, but your dogs are beautiful! is the only colr brown? they remind me of boxers.

[Guest Anonymous]

im just curious. how do you say that?!?!? It is a funny name! Boerboel

[Guest Anonymous]

Mei-Mei, if you were a buyer and contacted me, we would have had a long discussion about the dogs, their pedigree and health certificates.There isnt enough space Currently on my website to do it, but keep visiting, it will be upgraded to the best Boerboel site there is SOON!!!

Candybug, the colours available are brown, red-brown, light brown, tan, bryndle, piebald, and yellow.

Ill try to spell it in english - Booorboool like in boo for a ghost. And the r is not like you pronounce it, its a rrrrrr strong vibrating sound from the front of your tonge!

Thanks for not fighting, nice to chat only.

AVALONIA BOERBOELE

[Guest Anonymous]

K-Smaak my jy ken 'n bietjie Afrikaans? Plenty of hot water, coffee and biscuits in our pantry! :wink:
You will not leave once you met my dogs. They will get straight into your heart. :D
Sorry about that Boerboel looking for a home :cry: It makes one sad that there are so many people out there abusing dogs AND children/elderly people :evil:

AVALONIA BOERBOELE

[Guest Anonymous]

what dogs were used to create the Boerboele?
They like a cross between a Bullmastif and a Cane Corso(Looking in getting me a Corso in the next year). With the docked tail and theyr build they could be mistaken for a Corso.
Anyways, they look great and I dont think you have to worry about protection with them around. :D :D :D