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As for the other part: As I said...I cleared that up when I made refference to Babara Mclintock as she was involved with the study of Maize and transposons. When I mentioned E. Coli I forgot to detail that was involved with Starlinger and Shapiro. So pardon me for forgetting that detail. I have no idea who Shigella is.

Hobbit: I reffered to Bacteria when I replied about molecular genetics. And yes I know a bacteria phage is a virus. And as for the little blurb on Barbara Mclintock...I thought I made that clear in my other post where I said I had not made any sense when I typed that. I forgot a few sentences. And Yes I also know the definitions to the stuff that you replied too. I was not bringing that up with the expectations that everyone would know, nor was I realizing you would need the full text explinations...I made "reference" to them as pretty much of an example. As for your other detailed references...your books simply read differently then mine. I even double checked what I wrote in reference to MRNA You say: An RNA molecule transcribed *from* the DNA of a gene, And William S Klug says: The coded information in DNA is first transferred during a process called inscription INTO a messanger RNA molecule. The MRNA subsequently associates with a cellualr organelle, the ribosome, where it undergoes translation into a protien, the end product of almost all genes. p8 Concepts of Genetics I thought I had that pretty much down...as I just looked it up the other night for another question I was having from another book. I don't think what I said is different from what you said...only worded differently.

lastly: As for the site hobbit posted...while it was interesting...I will not put much weight in the value of private web pages. If its not published buy the scientific community I am not really interested in it. And its very difficult for me to put any stock into a web page that promotes the breeding and selling of mixed puppies using a bit of out of context fact to sell what they are breeding. I have plenty of books and online zines to read and keep me busy for the next year or so. Currently I am reading a DNA book by Berg and Howe which is very dry boring and I have fallen asleep on it a few times. It would be nice if these books would have some action scenes every once in a while (grin) :D I am currently looking for a good used copy of Cancer Chemotherapy in Small Animal. Practice by Jane M Dobson and Neil T Gorman, if any one has one they want to part with. <hint> There is supposed to be a good section on tumor biology. Any how...sleep tight...I am off to bed ;)

Thanks rosebud...you understood what I meant then...I wasn't being litteral you are right about that... :) Geeze, if I was, that really would make you cross eyed huh?

I want to ad something to my post..becasue I know how people are such sticklers for details... ;) Tranposible genetic elements were first studied, in depth in maize. Transposons were also first associated with bacterial and viral resistance to antibiotics. It was suggested that the genes responsible were actually mobile and could move between bacterial plasmids and chromosomes... I realize I ran that info together and it didn't quite make sense...sorry.

Woah: This is a complete and utter mish mash of non-sensical science words copied and pasted from an old text book...."gram positive" referes to a type of bacteria and has NOTHING to do with genetics. I am perfectly aware that gram positive has to do with Bacteria, but if you are dealing with the Genetic material of bacteria, and site specific transpondible elements...it has EVERYTHING to do with genetics. DNA exisists in bacteria. Bacteria are much more simple and often easier to deal with then looking at a more complex organism Transposons are hopping pieces of DNA shown to be present in the mamalian genomes only very recently, do you know where they came from, cause I do. Then I am suprised that you do not know that the first transposible elements to be used for genetic analysis was done in bacteria. The E coli bactiophages. That was over 50 years ago by Marbnara Mc Clintock. Transposons are not hopping genes, from the way I was taught, rather ther are genetic elements or units that can be "transposed" within the genome. What the cr** is a pritien? Did you mean protein....that again is NEVER part of DNA. I would be willing to explain anything you want, but PLEASE speak real words not jibberish. Pritien was a type-o ...should have been protien. Sorry about that. Actually protien binds certain parts of Mu DNA thats why I was asking. Is it apart of that binding process/coding ? or what? As for protien not having any part of DNA... When DNA is coded into MRNA the MRNA is associated with the robisome where is undergoes translation into PROTIEN. Protien is HOW a genetic code is expressed. Almost all the possible codes in DNA specify one of the twenty amino acids, the chemical building blocks of protien.... And I am speaking real words thank you.

Komodors are in the White LGD group (large guardain dogs) along with Pyrs, Kuvas, Marammer and other white guardain breeds. They are know for their very protective nature and armor like coats. They are often shaved down once a year with the sheep. They will pick up plant life in there coats as it grows out making them look like the landscape. ;) They are NOT a dog for the faint of heart. The show, corded, look that you see in the ring is not how the coat naturally looks when left to its own demise. (BTW puli do come in white but they are hearding dogs not guardian dogs)

You said:Doc wrote: You are 100% wrong that outbreeding will not get rid of mutations within the population. When you outbreed you can ELIMINATE the bad allelel from the POPULATION by selective breeding, thereby ELIMINATING the disease. What you are saying is that selective breeding is what is eliminating the disease not the outcrossing on it's own. Could this not also be achieved through selective line-breeding? " Absolutely. Selective breeding is the key.

I have fed everything from pedigree dog food to 80.00 per 40 pound dog food, all the way to BARF. I have honestly found, that a good kibble, will maintain a dog to long lived health. I have found no difference on coat, teeth, health, when compared to raw foods. The 80.00 bag of dog food did the dog no better then the 30.00 bag....I will never feed "bargain" brand again...as that was like feeding chicken feed....I will stick to a good balanced kibble and give treats like carrots, green beans, and melons on the side...

You probably need to check with the Untites Kennel club...they are the ones who recognize them. Coon hounds and Blood hounds are similar I think...those are AKC recognized.

Um...not that it really matters....but I don't think he is a pyr/saint mix. Both of those breeds have tiangluar ears set on the side of the head...he looks more like a shephern saint mix to me....his ears look like they might try to stand later on... Like I said...not that it matters....but I just could not help but notice.

Maybe there is only one parent because the offspring is a clone? :) Gotta love that asexual reproduction :)

The thing is they are not creating a new breed. That i the point. Most only want that cross breed, with a fancy name to sell it. The other reality is, that there are already *SO MANY* mixes...many poodle and or cocker mixes...that we don't need any more...and there is the truth that no responsible poodle breeder or cocker breeder (at least that I know of) would sell a dog knowing it was going to be mixed...therefor...more then likely many of these people are starting out with inferior stock...even with a crossbreed...you start out with inferior you get inferior.... Now could there be some one out there trying to perfect a cockapoo breed? sure...but why call it a cockapoo...why not come up with an origional name? As for Labradoodles...sheesh we alreay have them...called the irish water spanial or the curly coated retriever.... ;)

I did look at it...and yes I would consider that to be a very tight inbreeding...I am willing to bet that the COI on that breeding would be in the 30+% .

Thats really wild hobbit...as you would think farmers would want as high of a yield as possible...and the only way to achieve that would be a lower COI...really strange that they did not use that practice as I know many horse breeders and beef cattle people...do. I have seen beef cattle persons use frozen semen out of what ever bull was chosen as the best producer, sticking to COI of less then 2%. What kind of problems were they seeing? Just high mortality or what? do they know what was causing the still births? Seems like they would have brought in at least a few different bulls to decrease depression?